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Old 10-04-2019, 08:32 PM
 
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PT had at least three used bookstores when I lived there. Don’t know if they all still exist. The county library system is excellent.

Pot smoking in public was common. I frequently got whiffs (or worse) of it while walking around town. It most certainly was observable in the streets and on the trails, and I was not just a visitor seeing snapshots in time. The smoke was every bit as repellent as tobacco smoke in a publc area. Smoke is smoke.


I worked in Port Townsend, and I'm still there a lot to visit people and for recreation. There is a LOT of public pot smoking, in all seasons, in all places. No judgement, but, yeah, it is there.

I also observed quite a few yelling, drunken brawls, mostly in the downtown/uptown areas where tourists go, but also at the McDonald’s and in the QFC parking lot. I remember one in particular in the middle of winter in the early evening, when a man and woman were fighting/yelling over a trash can on Water Street. People do live on Water Street; I would get tired of that fast. But, it is a beautiful place, no doubt.
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Old 10-04-2019, 08:52 PM
 
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I worked in Port Townsend, and I'm still there a lot to visit people and for recreation. There is a LOT of public pot smoking, in all seasons, in all places. No judgement, but, yeah, it is there.

I also observed quite a few yelling, drunken brawls, mostly in the downtown/uptown areas where tourists go, but also at the McDonald’s and in the QFC parking lot. I remember one in particular in the middle of winter in the early evening, when a man and woman were fighting/yelling over a trash can on Water Street. People do live on Water Street; I would get tired of that fast. But, it is a beautiful place, no doubt.
There were indeed a lot of drunken or drugged people yelling and/or fighting in public. Calling it commonplace would be no exaggeration. Then there were also the crazies, people roaring angrily (and nonsensically) at passers-by just for...being in the vicinity of said nutcases. Happened more often in my few years there than I had seen in the rest of my life everywhere else, including in the Boston metro and Denver metro areas. The proportion of screwed-up people (whether from substance abuse or not) seemed to be higher than normal.

The PT boosters liked to say, “We’re all here because we’re not all there.” They thought it was a cute proclamation of eccentricity. Well, the screaming breakdowns or even just loud random statements made to random unsuspecting strangers was not “eccentricity.” More like total lack of self-control.

The area had abundant natural beauty, it is true. The rest is up for debate.

As for the OP, who perhaps is yet another variant of the bot that joined in September and began posting under multiple handles during the last week thereof, IF the titular query is genuine, Sequim seems a better match.
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Old 10-04-2019, 11:59 PM
 
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^^^Seems like there have been “lots of bots” lately.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Having stayed in Pt T for weeks at a time, I only want to say, that the "pot smoking is big in Pt T" statement is very relative. Amsterdam, it isn't. I didn't observe any pot-smoking on my visits there, none of my friends are into that, it's generally not observable in the streets. Pt T does have its own specialty shops; a local creamery has a fantastic specialty-cheeses shop, there are craft stores (it's a tourist town), and so on. You'd think it would be a prime location for a used bookstore, but I guess not. I think I mentioned the town's busy festival schedule in another post.

OP, I encourage you to visit both, along with other towns suggested here (Poulsbo, etc.), to see which feels/looks like a better fit to you.
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PT had at least three used bookstores when I lived there. Don’t know if they all still exist. The county library system is excellent.

Pot smoking in public was common. I frequently got whiffs (or worse) of it while walking around town. It most certainly was observable in the streets and on the trails, and I was not just a visitor seeing snapshots in time. The smoke was every bit as repellent as tobacco smoke in a publc area. Smoke is smoke.

I lived in the PT area for two years and my granddaughter graduated from PT high school and one her biggest complaint was the pot smoking by the students. I still have relatives and friends in town and in the area and I know for a fact some of them smoke pot. In fact I don't know which is worst...the mill or the pot smoke.

I agree with Pikabike 100%.
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Old 10-05-2019, 10:51 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I lived in the PT area for two years and my granddaughter graduated from PT high school and one her biggest complaint was the pot smoking by the students. I still have relatives and friends in town and in the area and I know for a fact some of them smoke pot. In fact I don't know which is worst...the mill or the pot smoke.

I agree with Pikabike 100%.
OK, Pika wins! It's good to discuss this, to fill out the picture. I'm glad I'm not moving to Pt T after all. Yeah, the mill, but the pot smoke, too.... Though I don't shop at QFC or Safeway. Didn't run into any pot smoke at the co-op or Aldrich's. Loved the deer who stroll around Uptown in broad daylight, as if they own the place.
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Old 10-05-2019, 12:39 PM
 
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To make it clear, there were things I detested about PT and there were things I loved about it. Taking the inevitable mixture of good and bad into the overall balance, I did not see a good future for us there. “YMMV.”
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Old 10-23-2019, 10:32 PM
 
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Default Moving to Sequim?

We did it & we liked it. We moved after 12 years in IDAHO, back to WASHINGTON State, where we came from but not to Seattle. To Sequim. A small town of half retired people, half farmers & their families I guess. It is popular as The Blue Hole. Less rain than Seattle. I read all the comments on City-Data before we moved there & I don't remember ever reading that The Tribe owned the town. After living here 15 mo we found out in the newspaper that The Tribe was building a giant methadone clinic here. Right in a town of older folks. The SH hit the fan. The Tribe is only 600. The town is 7,000 with 28,000 in the area. We don't have a drug problem here. We don't have homeless here. But we will if the clinic gets built. I am on a committee to fight it but they say it's a Done Deal. We are still fighting it because we don't want to find needles in the park. We don't want people zoned out on methadone waiting for their next dose. They have to check in daily & it's not an approved method of heroin addiction treatment. Just substitutes one addiction for another. Before we moved here we read that medical care is hard to come by. I wish I had understand how dire it is. The biggest clinic is also owned by The Tribe & the care I have gotten is not good. No Drs. Just NP. Every time I am seen it's like my first visit. Provider hasn't reviewed any notes & seems lost with any questions I have. The Tribe just opened a marijuana store, owns the golf course, a big casino they are expanding to include a 3-story hotel, a large convenience store, a Police Dept, an art gallery, wants to buy the local marina, wants to build a shellfish farm. I had no ill feelings towards Native Americans until they decided to ruin our town for profit. We hear they are going to get $400/patient/day for their dosing. There is no place for these patients to live. We don't have enough housing for the seniors who want to live here & the young people who work in the businesses. Rent is high & old, run down places are the norm. My daughter pays $1000/mo for a 2-bed, 1 bath that is from the 60s. Looks like the original stove. I would sell our overpriced home if my husband would move but he is 70 & it just about killed us physically to move 800 miles ourselves. We don't know where to go & keep hearing The Big One (earthquake) is coming anyway.

My advice is: Don't Move to Sequim now. Once that clinic comes in, if you can stand living here property will be selling way cheap. Seattle & other cities will be bussing homeless addicts here.
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Old 10-24-2019, 12:31 AM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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To the OP, yes. In both towns.

Interesting sidelight was Port Townsend was originally thought to be the major city at the mouth of Puget Sound. Never happened, of course. The more protected Seattle and Tacoma cities were more user friendly for shipping. And the Seattle/Tacoma battles were fierce thereafter, and the railroads were involved, but that is another thread!

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Old 10-25-2019, 10:00 PM
 
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We did it & we liked it. We moved after 12 years in IDAHO, back to WASHINGTON State, where we came from but not to Seattle. To Sequim. A small town of half retired people, half farmers & their families I guess. It is popular as The Blue Hole. Less rain than Seattle. I read all the comments on City-Data before we moved there & I don't remember ever reading that The Tribe owned the town. After living here 15 mo we found out in the newspaper that The Tribe was building a giant methadone clinic here. Right in a town of older folks. The SH hit the fan. The Tribe is only 600. The town is 7,000 with 28,000 in the area. We don't have a drug problem here. We don't have homeless here. But we will if the clinic gets built. I am on a committee to fight it but they say it's a Done Deal. We are still fighting it because we don't want to find needles in the park. We don't want people zoned out on methadone waiting for their next dose. They have to check in daily & it's not an approved method of heroin addiction treatment. Just substitutes one addiction for another. Before we moved here we read that medical care is hard to come by. I wish I had understand how dire it is. The biggest clinic is also owned by The Tribe & the care I have gotten is not good. No Drs. Just NP. Every time I am seen it's like my first visit. Provider hasn't reviewed any notes & seems lost with any questions I have. The Tribe just opened a marijuana store, owns the golf course, a big casino they are expanding to include a 3-story hotel, a large convenience store, a Police Dept, an art gallery, wants to buy the local marina, wants to build a shellfish farm. I had no ill feelings towards Native Americans until they decided to ruin our town for profit. We hear they are going to get $400/patient/day for their dosing. There is no place for these patients to live. We don't have enough housing for the seniors who want to live here & the young people who work in the businesses. Rent is high & old, run down places are the norm. My daughter pays $1000/mo for a 2-bed, 1 bath that is from the 60s. Looks like the original stove. I would sell our overpriced home if my husband would move but he is 70 & it just about killed us physically to move 800 miles ourselves. We don't know where to go & keep hearing The Big One (earthquake) is coming anyway.

My advice is: Don't Move to Sequim now. Once that clinic comes in, if you can stand living here property will be selling way cheap. Seattle & other cities will be bussing homeless addicts here.


Didn’t you know about the methadone clinic/psychiatric hospital plans before you moved there?
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Old 11-08-2019, 11:19 PM
 
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Sequim is turning less conservative. In 2016, Trump didn't win here, Hillary did. I'd say it's 50/50, but the more progressive folks tend to be less "in your face" on politics, IMO. It's a small town, and they tend to realize getting along with everyone is important. I've seen a number of conservatives lately, who hold with the Trump meme of being rude being OK, but I've also see some who, if a topic comes up where there are differences of opinion, are polite and respectful, as it should be.
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