Law says all new cars must be electric by 2030 (Seattle: houses, buy)

[Transmition]

Imagine how cheap fuel will be when the demand drops significantly.

Just kidding, oil companies will just increase the price to make more profit with the lower demand.

[MechAndy]

Ok I now think you are the coolest person here.
I wish I could afford that and all that is involved.

I’d be like John Muir exploring all the cool things in them there hills .

[Arcos]

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/30/10952...-range-anxiety

How the U.S. wants to make charging electric cars (almost) as painless as pumping gas
April 30, 2022.

“ The federal government will spend $5 billion dollars to build 500,000 chargers. The money will go to states, who have until late summer to submit their plans to the federal government.
The funding comes with strings attached – strings intended to ensure that this network of chargers is fast, reliable, and convenient… … states are to prioritize building chargers along the interstate highway system. Each charging station is required to include at least four fast-speed plug-ins. And chargers must be non-proprietary, meaning they connect to more than one auto brand.”

“There's also the fact that this is emerging technology, and there are still bugs being worked out. Reliability is a big issue with charging stations… … this is an important start that could help jumpstart private investment.

"That could be the confidence-inspiring trigger that says, 'Hey, private investment, pick up now where the federal government has now stepped aside, and now it's time for the free market to take this thing into scale,'" she says.”

This still doesn’t work for rural people. But private investment in the US is one of the most powerful and efficient forces in the world, so if government leads, private industry should be able to find solutions. Still, I see many problems and hiccups down the road.

[E Roy Slade]

i think we will vote all Inslee $%$^**&# types out and there will be all type cars in the year 2099

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by rodentraiser

"Jay Inslee signed into law last month a bill that sets a date of 2030 for all new cars registered in Washington state to be electric. According to the bill, this applies to all vehicles of the model year 2030 or later that are sold, purchased or registered in the state." Apr 1, 2022

How will this impact you, if it even does?

Then there's this:


WASHINGTON/DETROIT, Dec 8 (Reuters) - "The U.S. government plans to end purchases of gas-powered vehicles by 2035 in a move to lower emissions and promote electric cars under an executive order signed by President Joe Biden on Wednesday."

Our electrical grid is in shambles and badly outdated, and especially vulnerable to terrorists. What are these guys thinking?

Not only that, but as climate change progresses, hydroelectric power is going to start running out in some locations, as it did in a region of northern CA during the drought. Oroville Dam ran out of enough water to produce electricity. People who want reliable power for their electric cars will have to get their own solar array. And what about the fuel cell cars some manufacturers have been developing?

How is "electric car" defined by the law? Are gas/electric hybrids (like the Prius, etc.) ok? But the law is only relevant to cars purchased and registered in 2030 and beyond, right? So one could register a car in fall of 2029, and keep it for 20 years. For a lot of Boomers, that era will be the last car they ever buy, so they won't have to worry about it.

[MechAndy]

This is going to cost the people…yet once again.
How many more times will the people be fine with opening their pockets to pay for these policies?
I don’t know about others but I’m kinda done with these price increase (resession building) policies.

We don’t have the electricity for this.
This required electrical grid is not magically going to show up from nowhere.
Are we OK with killing off more salmon and orca to make this happen?
How about building some nuke plants?

Oh and give California half a chance and a few years and they will try to by electricity and water from the PNW.

[Arcos]

It would be interesting to see if the GOP actually has any solutions to the issue of fossil fuel induced global warming. Until then, one party will do the best it can.

I’d like to see pragmatists in the GOP promote alternative energy while advocating for a smoother path to adoption for more rural areas. Including more infrastructure buildout so that adoption of cleaner tech goes better.

Given that they can’t even be honest and admit there is a problem…

[509]

Originally Posted by Arcos

It would be interesting to see if the GOP actually has any solutions to the issue of fossil fuel induced global warming. Until then, one party will do the best it can.

I’d like to see pragmatists in the GOP promote alternative energy while advocating for a smoother path to adoption for more rural areas. Including more infrastructure buildout so that adoption of cleaner tech goes better.

Given that they can’t even be honest and admit there is a problem…

All the Democrats are doing is recycling their campaign contributions into taxpayer contributions for their green energy corporations!!!

That is the best the Democrats are doing.

TOMORROW....YES TOMORROW. Governor's Inslee of Washington, Brown of Oregon, and Newsome of California can reduce CO2 emissions by 10%.....TOMORROW.

They chose NOT TO DO IT. They don't need permission from Republicans, they don't need a new law passed by the Legislature, they don't need permission from President Biden.

All the Governor's have to do is issue a Executive Order dropping the speed limit to 55 MPH. The LAWS OF PHYSICS means that CO2 emissions will DROP 10% overnight. A HUGE NUMBER....given that Washington emissions have gone UP under Inslee.

Hear any talk about 55 MPH?? Well, you do in Europe where they are dropping their speed limits to meet their CO2 targets.

BUT ZERO from the west coast Governor's because their is NO MONEY in it for the campaign contributors. Nope 55 MPH saves tax dollars in addition to a HUGE reduction in CO2 emissions. Nothing in it for the "green corporations" and SO THE DEMOCRATS refuse to reduce the speed limit to 55 MPH.

They EVEN will not talk about it!!!

There is a problem and the Democrats will NOT admit it is about giving taxpayer dollars to their campaign contributors.....AFTER ALL......"we have the best government money can buy".....and the Democrats sold it for pennies on the dollar.

[87112]

Half the country can't come up with 400 dollars for an emergency and Democrats expects people to start buying 30k electric cars? Have these high and mighty liberals been to outside of their Teslas and villas to see how poor most of the country is?

[Arcos]

Originally Posted by 509

All the Democrats are doing is recycling their campaign contributions into taxpayer contributions for their green energy corporations!!!

That is the best the Democrats are doing.

TOMORROW....YES TOMORROW. Governor's Inslee of Washington, Brown of Oregon, and Newsome of California can reduce CO2 emissions by 10%.....TOMORROW.

They chose NOT TO DO IT. They don't need permission from Republicans, they don't need a new law passed by the Legislature, they don't need permission from President Biden.

All the Governor's have to do is issue a Executive Order dropping the speed limit to 55 MPH. The LAWS OF PHYSICS means that CO2 emissions will DROP 10% overnight. A HUGE NUMBER....given that Washington emissions have gone UP under Inslee.

Hear any talk about 55 MPH?? Well, you do in Europe where they are dropping their speed limits to meet their CO2 targets.

BUT ZERO from the west coast Governor's because their is NO MONEY in it for the campaign contributors. Nope 55 MPH saves tax dollars in addition to a HUGE reduction in CO2 emissions. Nothing in it for the "green corporations" and SO THE DEMOCRATS refuse to reduce the speed limit to 55 MPH.

They EVEN will not talk about it!!!

There is a problem and the Democrats will NOT admit it is about giving taxpayer dollars to their campaign contributors.....AFTER ALL......"we have the best government money can buy".....and the Democrats sold it for pennies on the dollar.

So, are the Republicans advocating for a 55 mph speed limit? If not, you are complaining about HOW one party is going about tackling a problem but giving the other party a complete pass for lying, pretending the problem doesn’t exist, making the problem worse through policies etc.

As for the speed limit, yes, I think it would help, but also be very unpopular and perhaps self defeating. The other measures being taken (improvement in CAFE standards over the years, laws requiring cleaner burning, etc. are having an effect.)

If you think that lowering the speed limit is the way to go, by all means, email the conservative politicians you support and I am sure they will jump all over it, and publicly state that they support that position, giving the Governor political room to make such an important action on his own authority. (Sarcasm)