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Old 01-27-2019, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Prescott
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All you have to do is walk in, use the bathroom, and walk out. It's not like they have a guard.
Which is exactly what I said before but you tried to go in a different direction in another post. I never said public restrooms were nonsense. What I said was the *excuses* given for those that say they can't find a bathroom and therefore think it's OK for people to crap on the sidewalk.
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Old 01-28-2019, 07:53 PM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
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Which is exactly what I said before but you tried to go in a different direction in another post. I never said public restrooms were nonsense. What I said was the *excuses* given for those that say they can't find a bathroom and therefore think it's OK for people to crap on the sidewalk.
You may have missed my earlier post. Living in car-centric Southern California, it's pretty easy to drive to a public bathroom. In areas like downtown Seattle and San Francisco you actually have to walk to the bathroom, which may be miles away if you are downtown. And even then it may be locked. I actually have an app on my phone that, for a fee, gives me the bathroom codes for locked bathrooms in downtown SF. So I, as a wealthy local, have issues. I can only image what tourists and the homeless have to deal with.

I agree that crapping on the sidewalk is pretty disgusting but I also think things can be done to help prevent it. Like public restrooms.
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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You may have missed my earlier post. Living in car-centric Southern California, it's pretty easy to drive to a public bathroom. In areas like downtown Seattle and San Francisco you actually have to walk to the bathroom, which may be miles away if you are downtown. And even then it may be locked. I actually have an app on my phone that, for a fee, gives me the bathroom codes for locked bathrooms in downtown SF. So I, as a wealthy local, have issues. I can only image what tourists and the homeless have to deal with.

I agree that crapping on the sidewalk is pretty disgusting but I also think things can be done to help prevent it. Like public restrooms.
Mayor Willie Brown bought and imported public restrooms for around downtown, but it was discovered, that people were using them for shooting up drugs. He got rid of the fancy French bathroom units.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Independent Republic of Ballard
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Mayor Willie Brown bought and imported public restrooms for around downtown, but it was discovered, that people were using them for shooting up drugs. He got rid of the fancy French bathroom units.
Time the bathroom to self-clean itself after five minutes of use, with a one-time pause button to get two minutes more. That should keep most of the druggies and prosties out.

In a more civilized era, of course, public bathrooms had attendants, to keep them clean and orderly, for a tip.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:28 PM
 
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Time the bathroom to self-clean itself after five minutes of use, with a one-time pause button to get two minutes more. That should keep most of the druggies and prosties out.

In a more civilized era, of course, public bathrooms had attendants, to keep them clean and orderly, for a tip.
some airports and casinos still do
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Old 01-30-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Time the bathroom to self-clean itself after five minutes of use, with a one-time pause button to get two minutes more. That should keep most of the druggies and prosties out.

In a more civilized era, of course, public bathrooms had attendants, to keep them clean and orderly, for a tip.
They tried automatic toilets 10 or so years ago - didn't work out.

"But the city canceled its contract this spring after the commodes became filthy hide-outs for drug use and prostitution."

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...old-for-12000/
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Independent Republic of Ballard
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They tried automatic toilets 10 or so years ago - didn't work out.

"But the city canceled its contract this spring after the commodes became filthy hide-outs for drug use and prostitution."

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...old-for-12000/
Personally, I don't care if they included dispensers of free clean-needles and rubbers (and safe receptacles for disposal). I just don't want people camping out in them, so that they will be available when needed. A time-limit (10-minutes?), after which, with a warning, an automated clean-up (water-spray) would commence, could do the trick.
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Old 01-31-2019, 05:08 PM
 
Location: San Ramon, Seattle, Anchorage, Reykjavik
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Personally, I don't care if they included dispensers of free clean-needles and rubbers (and safe receptacles for disposal). I just don't want people camping out in them, so that they will be available when needed. A time-limit (10-minutes?), after which, with a warning, an automated clean-up (water-spray) would commence, could do the trick.
They have those features in some of the standalone public bathrooms in Vancouver neighborhoods.
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Old 02-13-2019, 12:28 PM
 
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I must say, whatcom county doesn't know how to clean snow with their trucks. The snow plows just compact the snow banks where cars are parked on the street making it impossible to get out with out digging for hours. I seen a truck treating the snow covered road with dirt, after it already snowed and probably not before. The blades don't clean anything unless it's 6 inches above the ground.

And what's up with weather.com forecasting less than 1 inch 3 days in a row, with all 3 days getting way more than an inch? Each day became tougher to drive, not easier. I don't think any salt at all has been used except by individuals outside their business or home.
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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I must say, whatcom county doesn't know how to clean snow with their trucks. The snow plows just compact the snow banks where cars are parked on the street making it impossible to get out with out digging for hours. I seen a truck treating the snow covered road with dirt, after it already snowed and probably not before. The blades don't clean anything unless it's 6 inches above the ground.

And what's up with weather.com forecasting less than 1 inch 3 days in a row, with all 3 days getting way more than an inch? Each day became tougher to drive, not easier. I don't think any salt at all has been used except by individuals outside their business or home.
Well, to be fair this is a once in 20 or 30 year event that came in a series of storms with cold air already in place. So that makes things quite difficult. But I agree about the plows and roads not being ready this time-and should mention that in previous years- especially in Winter 2016/2017 where we had four or five decent snowfalls, the plows were out both during and immediately after the storms. So I'm not sure why everything is so delayed this time.

Regarding the forecast, there's just no way to get it right. Similar to Western NC (I lived there, too, for 15+ years), it's very difficult to get the winter storm forecasts right outside the mountains, where there's more of a likelihood of precipitation remaining frozen. But unlike NC, it's even harder to get the prediction right here because of several other factors, mainly the moderating effects of proximity to the sea, larger mountains, right nearby, and the existence of a phenomenon called the Fraser Outflow, in which cold air bottled in the BC interior mountains sinks down the Fraser River Valley and spills southward, especially affecting the lower mainland of BC and Whatcom County north of the Chuckanuts. It's what kept us colder and drier during the first few days of Seattle's big snows last week and is what kept us colder and snowier over the last few days.
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