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Old 09-17-2010, 09:37 PM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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Default Places that it NEVER snows in the USA.






ABOVE - 4.0 inch snowstorm in downtown San Francisco in 1887 - the largest amount on record in center city San Francisco:



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ABOVE - 8.0 inch snowstorm in downtown New Orleans in 1895 - the largest amount ever reported in the city.





ABOVE - Snow in Las Vegas in 2008:



Everyone is always interested in where it snows the most on the United States mainland… however; there is very little information about where it rarely snows in the United States. There have been several rare dustings of snow in 2008 (Los Angeles) and in 2010 (New Orleans, Charleston). As much as these events had little impact - they were rare in their locations. So for fun I thought I would take a look: I used the NOAA/National Weather Service Offices in each region for references.

There are a few things to keep in mind about snow events in places that rarely see snow:

1) I have listed the largest snowstorm on record in each area …but keep in mind that observational weather data is longer in some areas (like Mobile, AL) and much shorter in other areas (like Tucson, AZ).

2) Cities that have higher elevations away from downtown might report a rare snow…but if the weather reporting station is downtown or at the Airport at a lower elevation…snow may not be recorded. This is why we have used the largest snow event in the last 160 years in each city – since most locations in the city would have seen at least some snow.

3) Since this is a list of locations that receive the absolute minimum amount of snow…any city not listed here is likely to receive more than 1 inch of snow each year on average, and is thus not considered.

So here is a quick list of the biggest snow events from the most to the least…in the warmest places in the USA from 1850 to 2010 based on National Weather Service Data:

Greatest Snowstorms in Each City (1890 – 2010):


14.0 inches - Galveston, Texas - February, 1895. Mean Annual Snowfall – 0.2 inches.

12.0 inches – Las Vegas, Nevada - December, 1909. Mean Annual Snowfall – 0.9 inches.

8.2 inches – New Orleans, Louisiana – February, 1895. Mean Annual Snowfall – 0.1 inches.

6.8 inches – Tucson, Arizona - December, 1971. Mean Annual Snowfall – 1.0 inch.

6.6 inches – Charleston, South Carolina - December, 1989. Mean Annual Snowfall – 1.0 inch.

6.0 inches – Brownsville, Texas – Febuary – 1895. Mean Annual Snowfall – 0 (zero).

5.0 inches – Corpus Christi, Texas – January, 1897. Mean Annual Snowfall – 0.1 inches.

4.7 inches – Burbank/Los Angeles, CA - January, 1949. Mean Annual Snowfall – 0 (zero).

3.7 inches – San Francisco, CA – February, 1887. Mean Annual Snowfall – 0 (zero).

3.6 inches – Savannah, GA – December, 1989. Mean Annual Snowfall – 0.4 inches.

2.0 inches – Palm Springs, CA – January, 1930. Mean Annual Snowfall – 0.1 inches.

1.9 inches – Jacksonville, FL – February, 1899. Mean Annual Snowfall – 0 (zero).

1.5 inches – Yuma, AZ – December, 1932. Mean Annual Snowfall – 0 (zero).

1.0 inch – Phoenix, AZ - January, 1937. Mean Annual Snowfall – 0 (zero).

The following cities have never reported a measurable snowfall…but have reported a trace (T) of snow:

San Diego, CA (T-1949, T-1967)
Santa Barbara, CA (T-1939))
Orlando, Florida (T-1977)
Ft. Meyers, FL (T -1899)
Miami, FL (T-1977)
West Palm Beach (T-1977)

The following cities have no history of ever reporting any snow in the last 150 - 200 years:


Everglades City, FL
Melbourne, FL
Key West, FL
Honolulu, HI
Hilo, HI


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Old 09-18-2010, 02:41 AM
 
Location: Portland, TX. (next to Corpus Christi)
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What is interesting to note though, in regards to your statistics, is that Corpus Christi, for example, averages 0.0 inches of snow every month of the year, yet has a yearly average of 0.1 inches ! This is attributed, of course, to the extremely rare snowfalls that have happened, including the 4.4" snowfall that occured in a 48 hour stretch from December 24th-25th, 2004. Most snowfalls in Corpus have been much smaller, with the 8th largest ever being 0.1", the 9th being 0.0"!

Just food for thought.


Ian
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Old 09-18-2010, 02:57 AM
 
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Death Valley.
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Old 09-18-2010, 06:44 AM
 
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What is interesting to note though, in regards to your statistics, is that Corpus Christi, for example, averages 0.0 inches of snow every month of the year, yet has a yearly average of 0.1 inches ! This is attributed, of course, to the extremely rare snowfalls that have happened, including the 4.4" snowfall that occured in a 48 hour stretch from December 24th-25th, 2004. Most snowfalls in Corpus have been much smaller, with the 8th largest ever being 0.1", the 9th being 0.0"!

Just food for thought.


Ian

Your 100% right!!!!!!!

Many times I have tried to explain in vain the way the averaging of stats can be misleading. Many people think because a place Corpus Christi or New Orleans “averages” 0.1 inches of snow each year…there is a trace of snow every year. Of course, this is not true. Take New Orleans for example:

According to the National Weather Service office in New Orleans…over the last 160 years (1850 – 2010), there has been 105 years that reported no trace of snow in New Orleans…and just 17 years that had measurable snow in New Orleans. In the last 111 years (since 1899) - New Orleans has had just three snows greater than 0.9 inches…1958, 1963 and 2008. Over the past 160 years (1850-2010)- measurable snow has been reported in New Orleans in: …2008 (1.0 inches)… 2004 (0.5 inches)…1989 (0.5 inches)…1985 (0.4 inches)… 1973 (0.8 inches)…1963 (4.5 inches)…1960 (0.6 inches)…1958 (1.3 inches)…1935 (0.1 inches)…1899 (3 inches)…1895 (8.2 inches)… 1881 (2.8 inches)…1879 (1 inches)…1853 (information sketchy). Averaged out over the long term – New Orleans records 0.1 inches of snow annually.

This is a good example of how things are not what them seem based on a number. Most folks in the eastern half of the USA might know that snow in the Gulf/South Atlantic states is rare…but I have come across many folks from Europe or the Western USA who don’t often realize this. They see 0.1 inches for New Orleans or Corpus Christi...and think there in a dusting of snow each winter.

Elevation is often a confusing factor as well. A few years ago parts the higher elevations around Los Angeles had a dusting of snow...yet the snow was not reported at the offical reporting station located in the low Airport location. I was shocked to see that Tucson gets snow flurries now and then in winter...but this is often in the higher altitude elevations of the city.

Then there is the problems with moving the reporting station after many years: Take Charleston, SC for example:

Substantial snowfalls and snow depths were mentioned in 1803, and 1899 in center City Charleston. It seems after the big snowstorm of 1899 – there was not another major snowstorm in Charleston for almost 100 years until the “Big Snow of 1989” dumped 6.6 inches around the city. Before 1969, the official weather station for the City of Charleston was downtown …it has since moved 10 miles inland to the Airport (a colder location). So Charleston now reports a trace of snow a little more frequently. The December 1989 snowstorm, gave Charleston its second white Christmas in the last 150 years (a dusting of snow was observed for a few hours in the morning of December 25th, 1935). So there is no doubt that all areas of the city saw at least some snow. Over the past 120 years (1890-2010)- measurable snow has been reported in Charleston in: 2010 (3.4 inches)… 1989 (6.6 inches)…1980 (3.7 inches (December)…1973 (5.4 inches)….1969(2 inches)…1943 (2.1 inches)…1917…and 1899 (3.9 inches). Yet, note the greater number after 1969 (when the station moved). Averaged out over the long term – Charleston records 0.9 inches of snow annually.


@ALPHMALE:

Actually, Death Valley sees snow once in great while. They have even had measurable snow recently on 12/26/1994 – 1.1 inches. It appears that the lower Florida peninsula (a line from about Sarasota to Melbourne) is the only area on the USA mainland that has not had measurable snowfall in history…and in the case of a few cities (Melbourne, Everglades City, Key West…etc)…snow itslef has been seen in the written history of the area.

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Old 09-18-2010, 08:42 AM
 
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Aside from Florida, Brownsville, Texas has only had two snowfalls on record, 1895 and 2004. The southernmost Texas barrier islands, South Padre and Brazos Island probably have never seen snow.
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:05 AM
 
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What is interesting to note though, in regards to your statistics, is that Corpus Christi, for example, averages 0.0 inches of snow every month of the year, yet has a yearly average of 0.1 inches ! This is attributed, of course, to the extremely rare snowfalls that have happened, including the 4.4" snowfall that occured in a 48 hour stretch from December 24th-25th, 2004. Most snowfalls in Corpus have been much smaller, with the 8th largest ever being 0.1", the 9th being 0.0"!

Just food for thought.


Ian
Ian, I was further south that year at South Padre Island, my friends 11 year old daughter saw snow for the first time, it was awesome!
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Old 09-18-2010, 10:59 AM
 
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Its kind of like asking; where has it never gotten to 90 degrees really.
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Old 09-18-2010, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Portland, TX. (next to Corpus Christi)
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Ian, I was further south that year at South Padre Island, my friends 11 year old daughter saw snow for the first time, it was awesome!
LOL... funny, it took going to deep S. Texas, where it is EXTREMELY RARE to get snow, to see snow for the first time!!!


Ian
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Old 09-18-2010, 12:52 PM
 
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Interestingly, the low for Port Isabel for January 2004 was only 39F.
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Old 09-20-2010, 08:28 PM
 
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Texdav, I love living in a place where 90 isn't normal in the summer, does happen but not often. Even as warm as this summer was, 88 maybe but not 90.
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