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Old 01-06-2011, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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A cloudy 65-70F day in mid summer would be just plain depressing. Wouldn't be bothered with a BBQ, but it's ideal for sport. Such days are common in southern Victoria, especially the SW coast.

A typical summer month in one of mainland Australia's worst climates, Portland Victoria. Note all the sub 20C days

Portland, Vic - January 2010 - Daily Weather Observations (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201001/html/IDCJDW3068.201001.shtml - broken link)


And this past December Portland, Vic - December 2010 - Daily Weather Observations (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201012/html/IDCJDW3068.201012.shtml - broken link)
Well, it's nice not having to wear sun screen, at least.

I'm surprised at how cool a lot of south coast Australian climates are -- often significantly cooler than the same latitude in NZ. Because of cooler SSTs I guess?
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:43 PM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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^Do you have a map of the sunshine hours in January?

For those who want variety, a place like Kansas City would be a good option. Summers are bit hot for me, but winters seem pretty tolerable. But it's important to keep in mind of the arctic outbreaks that affect this part of the country. Next week might drop down to 4 F/-15.5 C, for example. All time record low is -19 F/-28.5 C.
Only a Feb map of sunshine hours: It looks like most of the KC area gets 160 hrs of sunshine, which would be much better than what you would get in the often cloudy/cool/miserable oceanic climates like New Zealand/and Pacific Northwest:

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Old 01-06-2011, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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And to cap it off, on our last morning, the temp dropped to 1C / 33F.
1 C? Seriously? In mid-summer at 38 S? That's amazing! Even Invercargill at 47 S wouldn't get that cold in summer.
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Mildura, Vic Australia
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Well, it's nice not having to wear sun screen, at least.

I'm surprised at how cool a lot of south coast Australian climates are -- often significantly cooler than the same latitude in NZ. Because of cooler SSTs I guess?
Basically it's because there is uninterrupted open ocean to the south, and one of the coldest in the world to boot, and the first landfall storms, fronts, and those infamous bloody "cool changes" is the southern Australian coast, straight off the frigid waters. Recipe for disaster. SSTs off the immediate coast are around 17-18C (cold by anyone's measure), with much colder water with temps below 15C lying just south of S 40 latitude. Even places at subtropical latitudes, e.g. Nullabour and Ceduna (around 31° south) have several summer days when it barely gets above 20C. This is at 31.45 lat: http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201012/html/IDCJDW5048.201012.shtml (broken link)

The east coast of NZ has the advantage of a bit of land between them and cold fronts, so that probably helps.
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Old 01-06-2011, 09:07 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Basically it's because there is uninterrupted open ocean to the south, and one of the coldest in the world to boot, and the first landfall storms, fronts, and those infamous bloody "cool changes" is the southern Australian coast, straight off the frigid waters. Recipe for disaster. SSTs off the immediate coast are around 17-18C (cold by anyone's measure), with much colder water with temps below 15C lying just south of S 40 latitude. Even places at subtropical latitudes, e.g. Nullabour and Ceduna (around 31° south) have several summer days when it barely gets above 20C. This is at 31.45 lat: Nullarbor, SA - December 2010 - Daily Weather Observations (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201012/html/IDCJDW5048.201012.shtml - broken link)

The east coast of NZ has the advantage of a bit of land between them and cold fronts, so that probably helps.
1C in Mildura, sure that's right?

Currently record low for Jan is 7.6C, so if it really was 1C then that'd be pretty crazy!

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Old 01-06-2011, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Mildura, Vic Australia
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1 C? Seriously? In mid-summer at 38 S? That's amazing! Even Invercargill at 47 S wouldn't get that cold in summer.
Yep, it happened! And at a sea-level, coastal location nonetheless! Proof: 90 West Coast: Climatic data for January 2009

The exact value was 1.6C. Nearby Mortlake, again a non-elevated town, had a whopping 1.1C!

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1C in Mildura, sure that's right?

Currently record low for Jan is 7.6C, so if it really was 1C then that'd be pretty crazy!
Portland, Vic.
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:30 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Yep, it happened! And at a sea-level, coastal location nonetheless! Proof: 90 West Coast: Climatic data for January 2009

The exact value was 1.6C. Nearby Mortlake, again a non-elevated town, had a whopping 1.1C!



Portland, Vic.
Sure there wasn't a mistake? Wow, that's kinda scary, actually, lol. What next, snow in Darwin?
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Mildura, Vic Australia
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Sure there wasn't a mistake? Wow, that's kinda scary, actually, lol. What next, snow in Darwin?
Not at all. It was very widespread aswell. Check out this link, choose a region of Vic, and then select Jan 2009. http://www.australianweathernews.com...e_element.html
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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1.1C in that part of Australia? At 38S?

But.....I don't know what's weirder that or... that it's a similar record to....(to bring the subarctic aspect back to this thread)

Yellowknife at 62 latitude north, in Canada's Northwest Terrorities has a record low in July of 0.6 C! Yellowknife's a subarctic/continental climate has its average July high/low of 21.1C/12.4 and its January one -22.7C/-30.9C.
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Well, it got down to 3 C there a year ago, so it's not that hard to believe: Portland, Vic - January 2010 - Daily Weather Observations (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201001/html/IDCJDW3068.201001.shtml - broken link)

It is pretty incredible for it to get so cold in mid-summer at a relatively low latitude though.
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