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View Poll Results: How would you rate the climate of Sydney, Australia?
A 28 31.82%
B 31 35.23%
C 15 17.05%
D 8 9.09%
E 2 2.27%
F 4 4.55%
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Old 01-30-2016, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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It's listed as humid subtropical, but it slightly looks like a warm variant of an oceanic climate? Doesn't look any warmer than a lot of oceanic climates, just more mild/warm in a sense with improved sunshine hours. Someone better versed with the koppen climate scale could teach me a lesson though...
It is in the transitional zone. So it will have both Oceanic and Humid Subtropical features. Some years definitely fall under oceanic, whilst others would be classically Cfa. In the last 20 years Sydney has definitely been more Cfa though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney#Climate
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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It is in the transitional zone. So it will have both Oceanic and Humid Subtropical features. Some years definitely fall under oceanic, whilst others would be classically Cfa. In the last 20 years Sydney has definitely been more Cfa though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney#Climate
Actually, I stand corrected.

Sydney is a bona fide Cfa as its summer mean is at or above 22C. As are most of its suburbs in the east and west.

The suburbs in the Hills District though, are Cfb.
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Actually, I stand corrected.

Sydney is a bona fide Cfa as its summer mean is at or above 22C. As are most of its suburbs in the east and west.

The suburbs in the Hills District though, are Cfb.
So the Hills district is more similar to Hobart, than it is to the rest of Sydney?
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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So the Hills district is more similar to Hobart, than it is to the rest of Sydney?
According to Koppen, yes.

That's why I think that there should be an intermediate climate system between Cfa and Cfb implemented to cover cities like Auckland and Melbourne.
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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According to Koppen, yes.

That's why I think that there should be an intermediate climate system between Cfa and Cfb implemented to cover cities like Auckland and Melbourne.
There is though -long term averages. They will tell one much more about a climate, than any classification ever will.
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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There is though -long term averages. They will tell one much more about a climate, than any classification ever will.
Which averages exactly? Annual averages or the monthly ones?
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Which averages exactly? Annual averages or the monthly ones?
30 year means, showing monthly averages- far more informative and useful than classifications, which are really just about science's clumsy attempt to explain climate in one or two words.
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Sydney
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Actually, I stand corrected.

Sydney is a bona fide Cfa as its summer mean is at or above 22C. As are most of its suburbs in the east and west.

The suburbs in the Hills District though, are Cfb.
Edit: Nope, I'm wrong.

Glenorie (admittedly somewhere I've never heard of) is further away from the UHI than Pennant Hills and averages 22.1C in January. I reckon with more recent data, Pennant Hills would show 22C+, it averaged 21.9C 70 years ago anyway.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averag...w_067010.shtml
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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30 year means, showing monthly averages- far more informative and useful than classifications, which are really just about science's clumsy attempt to explain climate in one or two words.
Yeah, that's pretty much true.

But the things is, everything is labeled nowadays. We're all somehow put in a "box" And climates don't seem to be exempted.

To be fair, whilst the Cfa and Cfb classes are too broad, Csa and Dfa are fairly specific, and the cities within those climates zones are usually quite homogeneous (if I'm not mistaken).
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:52 PM
 
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Edit: Nope, I'm wrong.

Glenorie (admittedly somewhere I've never heard of) is further away from the UHI than Pennant Hills and averages 22.1C in January. I reckon with more recent data, Pennant Hills would show 22C+, it averaged 21.9C 70 years ago anyway.

Climate statistics for Australian locations
Perhaps the Hills District are more Cfa than Cfb nowadays, but even in this map (if you look closely) they show as the latter:

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