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Am curious, do they (weather experts, etc) have thoughts on what the actual accurate recorded highest temps on earth are then, if those two are inaccurate?
Unalaska, no doubt about it! It's true that there are some comfortable weather in Death Valley in the winter months, but hey, where's the cold? Not to mention having to endure the extreme heat in the summer, no matter if it's dry or not, with those temps it must be unbearable.
Unalaska's climate is not perfect but it's quite nice, with lots of precipitation in the winter months, that's fine.
I think Death Valley might have the highest monthly average high (in July) for any place. Anyone want to try to find some place hotter?
Dallol must be on a par?
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Impressive considering its latitude, well out of the tropics (36N).
That's the most remarkable thing. I think it's a consequence of the local topography as well as the low altitude and high sunshine. Places at 36 S here in NZ only have 76 F average highs in their warmest month.
Just to add to the question of the accuracy of the temp record at Death Valley:
While I don’t doubt that back in 1913 when the 134 F record was made, data collection was not to the precise level of today…I think in the end the 134 F (56 C) record at Death Valley is very close to accurate. In fact, I think VERY SOON; we'll see a measurement of 140 F (60 C) from Death Valley. Today, NOAA/NWS now has very precise instrument housing at Furnace Creek, checked by NWS personal regularly. They report high temps from 119 - 127 F each summer.
Even though the standard deviation in a climate of this type is small, it would be a stretch to think that 134 F is an absolute maximum in Death Valley. This June Death Valley has already hit 119 F (48.5 C) twice, and the hottest months (July/August are still to come). Last July Death Valley hit over 120 F (49 C) 11 times…and hit 125 F (51.5 C) five times.
Here is the "mild" forecast for the rest of this week for Death Valley...and a typical early summer one (lol):
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Still waiting for anything above that 53.9C (129F). Time will tell.
One other interesting note:
I wondered about that 129 F (53 C) you mentioned? Is that the highest temp that Death Valley has had since the 1913 temp was recorded? So I did some checking on their (rather limited) NWS site:
DEATH VALLEY (042319)
Extremes
Highest Daily Maximum Temperature (degrees F)
Days: 1/1 - 12/31
Length of period: 1 day
Years: 1911-2011
Last value also occurred in one or more previous years
So it looks like (and this seems to be what you were trying to point out), while there has been several times that daily highs have hit 129 F in Death Valley…no temp in Death Valley has exceeded 129 F since 1913. 120 to 129 F seems like no big deal in Death Valley, yet breaking that 130 F mark seems much tougher, let alone reaching 134 F.
It will be interesting to see how high Death Valley can get this July. They are forecasting some highs the first week of July in the 125 F range. Perhaps this will be the year we see a record set. We'll see.
I had assumed the high of its warmest month would be less than Death Valley, as Dallol is near the equator and would have little annual range. I'm not really sure, as I can't find good weather stats (Death Valley has had accurate readings for a while, I think Dallol was for only a few years?). Of course, annually, Dallol is much hotter than Death Valley.
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That's the most remarkable thing. I think it's a consequence of the local topography as well as the low altitude and high sunshine. Places at 36 S here in NZ only have 76 F average highs in their warmest month.
And in CA, there are places that only have 69F as the warmest month high at 36N.
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