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Old 06-27-2011, 05:16 PM
 
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Maybe not - when is over 30C most European houses, apartments, and businesses use simple green home building ideas to keep their spaces cool in summer instead of the air conditioning so common in the U.S. These include roll down screens, patio shading, double windows, and more. European countries, have been the frontrunners in conserving energy and using green home building for decades.
There are not many days when the temperatures are over 30C (86F)
Same thing up here , any house built in the last 30 years has R20 walls and R40 in the attic..at least double glazed windows if not triple. Weather stripping every where to prevent drafts. If you build your house to withstand -40 it works well when it's plus 30. I usually open the windows when it hits 20C to let some heat in.
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Old 06-28-2011, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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N0t in ENgland, but in otherr parts of Europe its very common. Everywhere I've been in Italy and Portugal had AC even in homes and villas but those are hot hot climates in summer.
Are these holiday homes meant for tourists used to cooler indoor temps? I've got friends in Italy who live in a traditional old house (1700s perhaps?) and their home has small windows and whitewashed walls to keep heat out, blinds and thick walls/basements to keep a decent ambient temperature. They don't have, or need A/C or central heating despite an annual temp range perhaps around 20-95 degrees. Older houses are much better than newer houses in that respect IMO and much more eco-friendly.
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Old 06-28-2011, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Buxton, England
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Are these holiday homes meant for tourists used to cooler indoor temps? I've got friends in Italy who live in a traditional old house (1700s perhaps?) and their home has small windows and whitewashed walls to keep heat out, blinds and thick walls/basements to keep a decent ambient temperature. They don't have, or need A/C or central heating despite an annual temp range perhaps around 20-95 degrees. Older houses are much better than newer houses in that respect IMO and much more eco-friendly.
I guess older ones are are.

My house I live in here is made of stone and would stay cool even in very hot summer conditions (and is painfully cold in winter). Shame it's in the Derbyshire Peak District then but it's made from stone that has been quaried from a few miles away.
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:33 AM
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Ok, i like the A/C when its 100 degrees out, but can someone please tell me why, on a beautiful 85 degree day, our office is so cold that i have to wear not one but two sweaters to work? I don't understand people who complain all winter long about how they hate winter, and then they turn the A/C freezing cold at the first hint of humidity. Enjoy the summer, people! You waited all winter for it. Obviously if you are a person who LIKES winter, then it would make sense that you like the A/C. But so many people complain about winter and then blast the A/C all summer.
I am in a cafe on my computer right now in that place and it feels freezing inside. It is 87 degrees and sunny outside right now but when I am in this cafe I feel like I have to wear a sweater and maybe even a winter coat. My nose is cold and my arms almost feel like they are shivering.

Sometimes I like air conditioning, but sometimes I hate it(like right now) and feel the same exact way the OP does. Air Conditioning is a luxury, it is not really a necessity that someone needs most of the time.

A week ago, I had a similar incident in another indoor place where it felt too cold inside because of air conditioning and temperatures being in the upper 70s outside. I felt like I had to wear a sweater or a winter coat in that place too.

So many people where I live complained about winter and now some are even complaining about summer and want it to be freezing cold for indoor places.
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Old 07-07-2011, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Newcastle NSW Australia
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I am in a cafe on my computer right now in that place and it feels freezing inside. It is 87 degrees and sunny outside right now but when I am in this cafe I feel like I have to wear a sweater and maybe even a winter coat. My nose is cold and my arms almost feel like they are shivering.

Sometimes I like air conditioning, but sometimes I hate it(like right now) and feel the same exact way the OP does. Air Conditioning is a luxury, it is not really a necessity that someone needs most of the time.

A week ago, I had a similar incident in another indoor place where it felt too cold inside because of air conditioning and temperatures being in the upper 70s outside. I felt like I had to wear a sweater or a winter coat in that place too.

So many people where I live complained about winter and now some are even complaining about summer and want it to be freezing cold for indoor places.
It may have been considered a luxury to have air-conditioning 10 years or more ago, but not today.
I can recall the days when cars didn't have it, all you had was to open up the windows and let all the fumes and noise in. (plus cigarette smoke - since everyone smoked in those days)
I could not live without it (mainly during summer), and just about all new houses being built put it in -as where we are is not right on the coast - so the sea breeze comes very late, if at all.
Often it is set around 24C anyway, to minimise power consumption.
Shoulder seasons rarely need air-con here, which is about 5-6 months of the year.
During winter, the reverse cycle air-con heats the place up very quickly, within 30 mins and then turn it off.
Sure beats the fire hazards of those old coil heaters.
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:12 PM
 
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Ok, i like the A/C when its 100 degrees out, but can someone please tell me why, on a beautiful 85 degree day, our office is so cold that i have to wear not one but two sweaters to work? I don't understand people who complain all winter long about how they hate winter, and then they turn the A/C freezing cold at the first hint of humidity. Enjoy the summer, people! You waited all winter for it. Obviously if you are a person who LIKES winter, then it would make sense that you like the A/C. But so many people complain about winter and then blast the A/C all summer.
You seen to think winter is 72 degrees. Really you need to take something for that poor circualtion ;maybe if 72 makes you wear a sweater.
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Orange County
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Well, I personally love AC! Especially when I'm not paying for it, lol. It would seem kind of wasteful to put it on in 75 degree weather (like many stores do) but in 85+ degree weather, would you rather have it be 85+ degrees, or 70 degrees? I'll take 70 degrees any day.

What I really hate is artificial heating. IMO, it's completely stupid to put it on in 60 degree weather like so many people do here in Southern California, especially since the insulation of the building keeps it a relatively perfect and comfortable 65 degrees. Ugh, it gives me headaches too. To each his own
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Old 07-09-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Location: USA
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What I really hate is artificial heating. IMO, it's completely stupid to put it on in 60 degree weather like so many people do here in Southern California, especially since the insulation of the building keeps it a relatively perfect and comfortable 65 degrees. Ugh, it gives me headaches too. To each his own
What's the difference between heat on at 60, AC on at 85? Both seem like a waste of energy to me. And in the summer I definitely prefer 85 to 70 (in fact on the hottest summer days 85 is the temperature in my bedroom when I go to sleep - enjoying the nice breeze created by my very quiet ceiling fan). (Apologies to the Australians on this forum for not using the metric system - our country only likes to adopt new methodologies if we thought of them first no matter how much more logical they might be.)
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Old 07-09-2011, 02:07 PM
 
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What's the difference between heat on at 60, AC on at 85? Both seem like a waste of energy to me. And in the summer I definitely prefer 85 to 70 (in fact on the hottest summer days 85 is the temperature in my bedroom when I go to sleep - enjoying the nice breeze created by my very quiet ceiling fan). (Apologies to the Australians on this forum for not using the metric system - our country only likes to adopt new methodologies if we thought of them first no matter how much more logical they might be.)
Well if you are in a dry climate where it really cools off at night 85-90 midday won't heat your house up that much from cool comfortable sleeping weather. Very hard living without A/C in Florida where it is as humid as hell and the night time temp drops very slowly to just under 80 at like 4am even though the daytime high might be comparable to the front range this time of year
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Old 07-09-2011, 02:47 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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Now I know why you people from north use heating instead of A/C during winters...it's because they stop working in low temperatures. At least that's what happened on south of Brazil, which have been under a hard cold this week. Temps were near freezing, it freezes A/C outsides and turn them off. that's pretty curious...
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