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Old 06-09-2010, 04:11 AM
 
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The weather in the southwest lately for example seems "crappy". 100-110+ temperatures and horrible air and water quality, and almost permanent drought conditions. I rather be outside in 55-65, some clouds, and a light drizzle than that "crap." I think the weather is bad whenever it is above 85-90 degrees(However, I do like 70-80 degrees). After these three days, its going to be sunnier and 65-80 degrees in Seattle for at least 5 days.

I knew the sun was going to come back soon. And some people were doubting the sun was ever going to come back in their lifetime

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Old 06-09-2010, 11:59 AM
 
Location: West Coast Wanderer
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To Redline: Another unenlightened person that doesnt see that cooler rainy weather can actually be "good weather" sometimes, and doesnt have to be mean "bad" or "crappy."

The weather in the southwest lately for example seems "crappy". 100-110+ temperatures and horrible air and water quality, and almost permanent drought conditions. I rather be outside in 55-65, some clouds, and a light drizzle than that "crap." I think the weather is bad whenever it is above 85-90 degrees(However, I do like 70-80 degrees). After these three days, its going to be sunnier and 65-80 degrees in Seattle for at least 5 days.

I knew the sun was going to come back soon. And some people were doubting the sun was ever going to come back in their lifetime
Crappy weather is all relative. I live in San Diego right now. The place that's supposed to have the best weather in the country. Whatever, I hate it! Only yesterday and today is the weather here to my liking because it's been overcast. The days before that were too warm to my taste, in the mid 70's. But mid 70's here at this time of year are not that comfortable. There's a gray haze in the air cause by the slight increase in humidity. The air is no longer dry and refreshing and won't be till mid October.

I've looked at Seattle's forecast and so wish I was there right now. Even last summer when I was there, it was rather warm but it felt great. So to me, Seattle's weather seems (I've not lived there through a year), wonderful. It's all a matter of opinion what we consider crappy.
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Old 06-09-2010, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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I think when the weather is bad people just stay indoors and read books, study, work, etc. because there are only so many things you can do when the weather is crappy outside.

This is actually true. It happened to me. Im a extroverted guy, but since moving here after college I ended up having to stay inside due to bad weather and read. A lot. Then all of a sudden I woke up well-read and more intelligent. And when all the ladies stay indoors or cover up theres not a lot of courting to do. All the energy goes to feeding your brain here.
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:21 PM
 
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Seattle actually gets 600-800 hours more sunshine hours per year than London(2,000/2,100 hours vs. 1,200-1,4000). Seattle's December is London's November-February.
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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This is a intresting thread. I always thought london gets alot of rain but 25" yr isnt too bad. I have heard the summers in london can be cool & wet. I was in london in april yrs back & it was cold & wet. I hear its a VERY expensive city to live in. I did though like the fish n chips & the subway system.
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Old 06-16-2010, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Subarctic Mountain Climate in England
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Seattle actually gets 600-800 hours more sunshine hours per year than London(2,000/2,100 hours vs. 1,200-1,4000). Seattle's December is London's November-February.
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London averages 1,550 hours of sunshine, actually.

London Heathrow Airport 30-year Average Maximum Temperatures:

January: 7.9C / 46.2F
February: 8.2C / 46.8F
March: 11.2C / 52.2F
April: 14C / 47.2F
May: 17.7C / 63.9F
June: 20.8C / 69.4F
July: 23.3C / 73.9F
August: 23.1C / 73.6F
September: 19.9C / 67.8F
October: 15.6C / 60.1F
November: 11.2C / 52.2F
December: 8.5C / 47.3F

Used to live right next to the airport, and found that apart from the cloudiness it was a respectable climate, even good for its latitude. We get to get over 30c several times each year usually, and thunderstorms are much more frequent than Seattle. Very dry as well.

I could understand why some generalisers would call England "wet" if I had lived here in Buxton all my life, but being in east Berkshire for 12 years I wondered what people were talking about when they called England wet, because it was DRY over there! We frequently used to get droughts and "hosepipe" bans in warm dry summers like 1995, 1996 and 1997 in particular. At the end of August 1995 all the grass was dead and yellow and that month also had an average high over 81F.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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London averages 1,550 hours of sunshine, actually.

London Heathrow Airport 30-year Average Maximum Temperatures:

January: 7.9C / 46.2F
February: 8.2C / 46.8F
March: 11.2C / 52.2F
April: 14C / 47.2F
May: 17.7C / 63.9F
June: 20.8C / 69.4F
July: 23.3C / 73.9F
August: 23.1C / 73.6F
September: 19.9C / 67.8F
October: 15.6C / 60.1F
November: 11.2C / 52.2F
December: 8.5C / 47.3F

Used to live right next to the airport, and found that apart from the cloudiness it was a respectable climate, even good for its latitude. We get to get over 30c several times each year usually, and thunderstorms are much more frequent than Seattle. Very dry as well.

I could understand why some generalisers would call England "wet" if I had lived here in Buxton all my life, but being in east Berkshire for 12 years I wondered what people were talking about when they called England wet, because it was DRY over there! We frequently used to get droughts and "hosepipe" bans in warm dry summers like 1995, 1996 and 1997 in particular. At the end of August 1995 all the grass was dead and yellow and that month also had an average high over 81F.
Fair comment. My daughter has been in the London area for 8 years now. She's not at all crazy about the sunshine ratings, but otherwise finds the lowish rainfall average and reasonable summer warmth OK.
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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Alot of people in the us think england is a cloudy, cold & wet country.
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Subarctic Mountain Climate in England
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Alot of people in the us think england is a cloudy, cold & wet country.

1) Cloudy, yes.

2) Cold, well the mean Central England Temperature (let alone London which is much warmer) is 9.75C / 49.6F.



Your typical English Midlands temp is warmer than:
Boston, MA (9.3C)
Detroit, MI (9.5C)
Minneapolis, MN (7.0C)
Rapid City, SD (8.2C)
Sioux City, IA (9.0C)
Helena, MT (6.6C)
Madison, WI (7.7C)
Grand Rapids, MI (9.0C)
Buffalo, NY (8.4C)
Albany, NY (8.5C)

The south of England is considerably warmer than the midlands, with mean temps of 10-11C (50-52F).

The clincher of course being that England is as much as 10 degrees latitude NORTH of these cities. So actually, it is a lot warmer than you think.

3) Wet

Let's see. Average rainfall of several major UK cities:

London - 23.2"
Birmingham - 26.5"
Cambridge - 21.8"
Durham - 25.3"
Lincoln - 23.7"
Manchester - 35.4"
Bristol - 40"

Now what about the US?

New York City - 41.9"
Chicago, IL - 35.1"
San Francisco, CA - 19.6"
Miami, FL - 57.7"
Seattle, WA - 38.1"
Atlanta, GA - 48.7"
Kansas City, MO - 36.5"
Dallas, TX - 36.1"
New Orleans, LA - 62.2"
Omaha, Nebraska - 29.9"

Apart from the the South West, most everywhere is wetter than most parts of England, with the wettest parts of England being localised areas of the North West, where hardly anyone lives anyway.

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Old 06-19-2010, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Surrey, London commuter belt
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London averages 1,550 hours of sunshine, actually.

London Heathrow Airport 30-year Average Maximum Temperatures:

January: 7.9C / 46.2F
February: 8.2C / 46.8F
March: 11.2C / 52.2F
April: 14C / 47.2F
May: 17.7C / 63.9F
June: 20.8C / 69.4F
July: 23.3C / 73.9F
August: 23.1C / 73.6F
September: 19.9C / 67.8F
October: 15.6C / 60.1F
November: 11.2C / 52.2F
December: 8.5C / 47.3F
The last 30 yrs average about 1630 hours at Heathrow.

Here are Seattle's temps for the same period as Heathrow's (from weatheronline).

Jan: 7.8C
Feb: 9.4C
Mar: 11.5C
Apr: 14.2C
May: 17.8C
Jun: 20.7C
Jul: 23.8C
Aug: 24.1C
Sep: 21.0C
Oct: 15.0C
Nov: 10.0C
Dec: 7.1C

There is not as much of a difference as people suggest. Seattle gets an extra 400 sunshine hours (equivalent to about 30 extra sunny days), but London gets more days with sunshine, fewer rainy days and much less rainfall.
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