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View Poll Results: Climate Battle: New York, NY vs. Wellington, NZ
New York City 15 51.72%
Wellington 14 48.28%
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Old 10-31-2011, 10:57 AM
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I calculated it for the last ten years. The average maximum temperature for a week in the winter (Dec-Feb) for NYC is 10.7 C (51.2 F). Since that's lower than the average high for a day in Wellington, I guess that's probably a deny.
How'd you grab the data?

 
Old 10-31-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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I went for Wellington. The range of things that can be grown is just too great to turn down, and the climate would feel familiar as it's only 130 km SE of here. I actually think of it as a warmish climate, but enjoy the contrasting weather. Bush,hills and beaches aplenty as well.

NY has summers close to my ideal, with great temps, rain and thunder. The downside is 5-6 months of cold weather.
 
Old 10-31-2011, 01:02 PM
 
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Wellington is certainly not a bad climate, as there are six months (Nov to April) that would not be uncomfortable outside for me. In each of those months the precip is not too heavy, so it would be fairly dry in Wellington in the warmest part of the year. Another thing I like about Wellington is that winters don't seem as gloomy as some oceanic climates.

The down side of Wellington is of course the same syndrome as the PNW region here in the USA – cold summers. Not a single month in even cracks 21 C/70 F. In fact the average low in NYC in mid summer (July)…is the average high in Wellington in mid summer (Jan). I think many people especially from lower latitudes (40 south) would really struggle in a climate where no month has average highs above 70 F. The low sunshine hrs in Wellington is also a bit of an issue for those who like sunshine. In NYC, one is assured of a good 5 to 6 months of sunny hot weather.

Would have to go with the Big Apple!
Strength of sunlight helps to compensate for fewer hours - because of that, there's no way I think of Chicago (for instance) as being significantly sunnier than here - and even if you consider the west of the US, I recall a colleague marvelling that she could stay out in the sun there for hours without getting sunburnt.
 
Old 10-31-2011, 01:06 PM
 
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I calculated it for the last ten years. The average maximum temperature for a week in the winter (Dec-Feb) for NYC is 10.7 C (51.2 F). Since that's lower than the average high for a day in Wellington, I guess that's probably a deny.
That's a clear "deny", even though the maxima don't fluctuate wildly here.
 
Old 10-31-2011, 01:16 PM
 
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I went for Wellington. The range of things that can be grown is just too great to turn down, and the climate would feel familiar as it's only 130 km SE of here. I actually think of it as a warmish climate, but enjoy the contrasting weather. Bush,hills and beaches aplenty as well.

NY has summers close to my ideal, with great temps, rain and thunder. The downside is 5-6 months of cold weather.
Yep. And my property is cut off from airflows from the colder half of the compass! The Kapiti Coast nearby has good beach expanses in a milder (though not sunnier) setting.
 
Old 10-31-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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Strength of sunlight helps to compensate for fewer hours - because of that, there's no way I think of Chicago (for instance) as being significantly sunnier than here - and even if you consider the west of the US, I recall a colleague marvelling that she could stay out in the sun there for hours without getting sunburnt.
While I was on the US west coast I decided the relative gentleness of the sunshine was part of what makes it such a great climate. June/July in San Diego and the sun was so nice, not the burning, eye squinting sun you could expect here a lot of the time in Dec/Jan. Even further inland didn't seem too bad.
 
Old 10-31-2011, 03:18 PM
 
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While I was on the US west coast I decided the relative gentleness of the sunshine was part of what makes it such a great climate. June/July in San Diego and the sun was so nice, not the burning, eye squinting sun you could expect here a lot of the time in Dec/Jan. Even further inland didn't seem too bad.
While you're enjoying it though, you might think about the stuff in the air that helps to make it so.

I did find the San Francisco area better in that regard than what you get around the LA region.
 
Old 10-31-2011, 03:45 PM
 
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How'd you grab the data?
I took it from Weather Underground. The data is from Central Park. The individual values were (in Celsius)...

22 17 14 9 6 11 10 13 20 12 13 17 4 8 16 12 12 10 4 -1 3 9 2 9 14 12 13 14 14 6 3 -2 6 9 10 13 14 8 15 16 14 19 -1 3 11 12 13 6 3 12 13 12 10 16 17 14 18 13 15 10 12 14 15 12 22 13 14 5 5 1 4 9 8 11 7 16 8 18 9 4 12 20 12 18 18 19 14 18 6 5 8 5 12 18 10 16 12 11 12 13 3 10 10 14 4 6 7 8 8 13 4 12 11 3 5 3 6 7 19 14

Not a particularly careful method, but I think it's good enough for the problem at hand. I didn't include weeks that were partially in November or March. I should have been more transparent. My bad.
 
Old 10-31-2011, 03:54 PM
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I took it from Weather Underground. The data is from Central Park. The individual values were (in Celsius)...

22 17 14 9 6 11 10 13 20 12 13 17 4 8 16 12 12 10 4 -1 3 9 2 9 14 12 13 14 14 6 3 -2 6 9 10 13 14 8 15 16 14 19 -1 3 11 12 13 6 3 12 13 12 10 16 17 14 18 13 15 10 12 14 15 12 22 13 14 5 5 1 4 9 8 11 7 16 8 18 9 4 12 20 12 18 18 19 14 18 6 5 8 5 12 18 10 16 12 11 12 13 3 10 10 14 4 6 7 8 8 13 4 12 11 3 5 3 6 7 19 14

Not a particularly careful method, but I think it's good enough for the problem at hand. I didn't include weeks that were partially in November or March. I should have been more transparent. My bad.
I mean, did you download month by month, copy and paste the values? It might be interesting to download all the values at once a play with them a bit, but if you go month by month it might be too tedious to be worth it.
 
Old 10-31-2011, 04:06 PM
 
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I mean, did you download month by month, copy and paste the values? It might be interesting to download all the values at once a play with them a bit, but if you go month by month it might be too tedious to be worth it.
No, I simply input manually all the maximum highs of each week starting with Dec 2-8 2001 here into Excel and went all the way to February 20-26 of 2011. The resulting number was the average of 120 values.

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