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Old 06-04-2014, 01:32 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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That's amazing - just goes to show the differences that exists within the same time zone.

No wonder why the Northeasterners are such big proponants of Daylight Saving Time...lol. They really should put the whole NE into the Atlantic time zone, in my opinion, and maybe put Alabama and all of Tenn, Kentucky, etc into the Eastern. Then we can just do DST from May-Sept, like it should be.
Its already on wrong timezone.

I looked it up and their solar noon is 4 after me and not 5 hours..

 
Old 06-04-2014, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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May to Sept makes little sense, day length is longer in April than September let alone May.
Actually, the moaning and groaning that people have here in GA with the spring switch is due to them feeling as if they have to get up an hour earlier to go to work (which, in actuality, they do,) and in this part of the time zone, asking people do that in early March constitutes cruel and unusual punishment...lol. Doing the change in early May would make this transition far easier, as there's plenty of daylight in the mornings by that date, even this far west.

Hope this makes sense to you.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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There's only like, what, 12 or 13 degrees of latitude between you and Nei? Can't be *that* big of a difference in the twilight time.
Yes it can!

Compare even here and London and its alot!!
 
Old 06-04-2014, 01:34 PM
 
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At Bar Harbor, ME civil twilight is 36 minutes long, starts at 4:14 AM. In Leeds, UK civil twilight is 1hr1min long, starts at 3:48 AM. The change in daylight with latitude gets faster as you approach the arctic circle.
Its 1 hour and 12 minutes here.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 01:36 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Haha leeds sunrise is before here and civil twilight starts here before there
 
Old 06-04-2014, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Its already on wrong timezone.

I looked it up and their solar noon is 4 after me and not 5 hours..
Yes, the whole Northeastern US (east of Washington, DC) is displaced in the wrong time zone - which is why I think they belong in the Atlantic Time Zone, which is one hour east. I think they did it this way to facilitate trade and commerce with the NE compared to other areas of the eastern seaboard, but in this day and age, it's really not a concern.

Instead of doing the sensible thing, however, they keep making DST longer and longer, which makes life harder for us in places such as Georgia and Michigan (like the UP, for example, they're one hour ahead of solar noon even without DST.)
 
Old 06-04-2014, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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At Bar Harbor, ME civil twilight is 36 minutes long, starts at 4:14 AM. In Leeds, UK civil twilight is 1hr1min long, starts at 3:48 AM. The change in daylight with latitude gets faster as you approach the arctic circle.
Wow, I had no idea. I guess I have more experience traveling to lower latitudes than higher ones. I really need to plan that trip to Scotland around the summer solstice one year and just do a couple all-night treks in the Highlands.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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You have later sunsets than me.
Yeppers, it's 8:44 now, going to 8:52 at the max, yeah baby.
 
Old 06-04-2014, 01:43 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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But then is 5 timezones really conveniant?
 
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Actually, the moaning and groaning that people have here in GA with the spring switch is due to them feeling as if they have to get up an hour earlier to go to work (which, in actuality, they do,) and in this part of the time zone, asking people do that in early March constitutes cruel and unusual punishment...lol. Doing the change in early May would make this transition far easier, as there's plenty of daylight in the mornings by that date, even this far west.

Hope this makes sense to you.
Sunrise is at 7 AM with daylight savings time by mid April, so I'd think it wouldn't make sense to change the clocks later, you'd get rather early sunsets if you don't.
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