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"On Feb 15, 2005, thrinax01 from Salt Spring Island,
Canada wrote:
Phoenix c. are grown as an experimental species in our zone 8b climate and some of them have managed to survive for several years unprotected.
I do know of one growing in town since the Spring of 1999 and it seem to be just thriving. However it is growing right beside the ocean so it can feel the full maderating affect the Winter months. Personally I've lost numerous Phoenix over the years, but I may try one more time. The nicest specimens I've photographed in the Pacific North West were located in Brookings, Oregon on the south coast. They seemed to be every where once I started driving down side streets. The crowns were massive and the trunks were thick.
They were decades old monsters and I've never even seen tham that full and with such thick trunks in southern California. The oldest I came across was planted in 1954. I also spotted two very large Phoenix in Gold Beach 27 miles north of Brookings, and they also looked great. I wouldn't mind to have one that size on my property. They are a beautiful palm indeed! By the way, many other species of palms are grown on our island with no problems at all. ature T.fortunei are common and there are some very nice Chamaerops as well
I know they are quite prevalent in the low country south carolina, another poster mentioned in that same thread that he was able to grow some in emerald isle north carolina. Low country zone 8a and the cidps are talked by another poster in south carolina, maybe some of those hardiness zones in south carolina arent always correct
" Although for some reason the Lowcountry is classified as 8a/8b, which is incorrect for most of the region, because the winters are more like 8b and 9a and even higher on islands and near the beach or marsh (on Hilton Head to 10a in some places). this palm is popular here in residential landscapes and it is fining its way into commercial landscapes, as well as the pygmy date and sylvester date (wild date palm). canary dates hardly get damaged if at all during hard freezes"
this is from a cidp video shot in georgia from the ty ty nursery in zone 8. I have really looked into alot of these growing zones fro cidps for our beach house, buying these canary island palms are very expensive
"On Feb 15, 2005, thrinax01 from Salt Spring Island,
Canada wrote:
Phoenix c. are grown as an experimental species in our zone 8b climate and some of them have managed to survive for several years unprotected.
I do know of one growing in town since the Spring of 1999 and it seem to be just thriving. However it is growing right beside the ocean so it can feel the full maderating affect the Winter months. Personally I've lost numerous Phoenix over the years, but I may try one more time. The nicest specimens I've photographed in the Pacific North West were located in Brookings, Oregon on the south coast. They seemed to be every where once I started driving down side streets. The crowns were massive and the trunks were thick.
They were decades old monsters and I've never even seen tham that full and with such thick trunks in southern California. The oldest I came across was planted in 1954. I also spotted two very large Phoenix in Gold Beach 27 miles north of Brookings, and they also looked great. I wouldn't mind to have one that size on my property. They are a beautiful palm indeed! By the way, many other species of palms are grown on our island with no problems at all. ature T.fortunei are common and there are some very nice Chamaerops as well
.Banana Joe, Salt Spring Island, B.C.
Brookings and Gold Beach are almost on the OR/CA border... not really the PNW. I'm talking about Seattle and Vancouver which are fully zone 8.
I know they are quite prevalent in the low country south carolina, another poster mentioned in that same thread that he was able to grow some in emerald isle north carolina. Low country zone 8a and the cidps are talked by another poster in south carolina, maybe some of those hardiness zones in south carolina arent always correct
" Although for some reason the Lowcountry is classified as 8a/8b, which is incorrect for most of the region, because the winters are more like 8b and 9a and even higher on islands and near the beach or marsh (on Hilton Head to 10a in some places). this palm is popular here in residential landscapes and it is fining its way into commercial landscapes, as well as the pygmy date and sylvester date (wild date palm). canary dates hardly get damaged if at all during hard freezes"
this is from a cidp video shot in georgia from the ty ty nursery in zone 8. I have really looked into alot of these growing zones fro cidps for our beach house, buying these canary island palms are very expensive
They grow decently well in the coastal Southeast, but I don't think they do very well in Vancouver. I just don't think it gets enough warmth like Brookings might get in winter.
The only problem with CIDP in the Southeast is I don't think they like humidity, and other Phoenix do quite a bit better like Sylvestris.
Lol, just as I said they are native to deep S. Florida and S. Texas. Show me an 8b evergreen native to Jackson, MS.
No, the range for the Limestone Prickly Ash extends to North Florida, and up to the northern Texas coast (in the Houston area). The Anacua tree extends well inland to Texas, to near San Antonio/Austin.
No, the range for the Limestone Prickly Ash extends to North Florida, and up to the northern Texas coast (in the Houston area). The Anacua tree extends well inland to Texas, to near San Antonio/Austin.
On Daves Garden it is listed as hardy to 10F, not 8b.
It shows that the plants are native to zone 8, specifically zone 8a. It shows 10F because that is the lower end of zone 8a, but the actual hardiness can be warmer (say down to 13F). But 13F is between 10-15F, so 13F is zone 8a.
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