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View Poll Results: Rate the Climate: St George, Utah
A 2 6.90%
B 4 13.79%
C 10 34.48%
D 10 34.48%
E/F 3 10.34%
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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The thing about desert climates like St. George is they don't stay at 39C all day, all year. If you've lived in a hot desert, you'll see what people are talking about when it comes to comfort levels.

Highs around 35-40 are very common here in summer, and life doesn't end, I didn't even have A/C, just cold showers during the day, avoiding the afternoon sun, and doing outdoor things at night. Evenings in the 24-32 area can be very pleasant with a breeze and low humidity, and St. George's average lows are around 20 and 21 in the hottest months.
If you're trying to convince us coldies that St. George has a nice climate, then you're not doing a very good job.
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Buxton, England
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The thing about desert climates like St. George is they don't stay at 39C all day, all year. If you've lived in a hot desert, you'll see what people are talking about when it comes to comfort levels.

Highs around 35-40 are very common here in summer, and life doesn't end, I didn't even have A/C, just cold showers during the day, avoiding the afternoon sun, and doing outdoor things at night. Evenings in the 24-32 area can be very pleasant with a breeze and low humidity, and St. George's average lows are around 20 and 21 in the hottest months.
I totally agree, you are 100% correct. Those temps are very pleasant, if not too humid and especially in the evening. Better than going outside into a blast of stinging cold air. Even the coldies go out in snow with their hats and coats on LOL. They don't really like the cold that much then.

Whereas I can wear the same clothes if it's 30 degrees outside as I do indoors, no change.
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:43 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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A dry heat is certainly more tolerable, but it's still hot nonetheless. A/C would still be necessary, especially in a car.
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I totally agree, you are 100% correct. Those temps are very pleasant, if not too humid and especially in the evening. Better than going outside into a blast of stinging cold air. Even the coldies go out in snow with their hats and coats on LOL. They don't really like the cold that much then.

Whereas I can wear the same clothes if it's 30 degrees outside as I do indoors, no change.
38C is not pleasant. 21C is pleasant.

Spending too much time outdoors without coats on eventually becomes uncomfortable, but I still love cold, seasonal weather, and I am not entirely sure why you are so desperate to change our minds. Does it bother you?
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Old 12-16-2011, 08:56 AM
 
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Please note: We are talking about 39C (103F), not 30C (86F) !

Of course 30C (86F) is nice, just like Singapore !

I would say from 20C(68F) to 30C(86F) is the comfort level for most people, give or take.
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:00 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I totally agree, you are 100% correct. Those temps are very pleasant, if not too humid and especially in the evening. Better than going outside into a blast of stinging cold air. Even the coldies go out in snow with their hats and coats on LOL. They don't really like the cold that much then.

Whereas I can wear the same clothes if it's 30 degrees outside as I do indoors, no change.
The difference is warm clothes actually keep me comfortable in cold weather. Short of jumping in a pool or blasting the A/C, not much will keep me cool during the summer.
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Way too dry.
Not enough greenery.
Winter too mild
Too much sun
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Buxton, England
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38C is not pleasant. 21C is pleasant.

Spending too much time outdoors without coats on eventually becomes uncomfortable, but I still love cold, seasonal weather, and I am not entirely sure why you are so desperate to change our minds. Does it bother you?
30 degrees, not 38 degrees.

People who say they love cold weather still don't like feeling cold though, why do they heat their homes, wear coats and hats etc...

To me the reason I like 25-30°C is because I like the way it feels, and can wear the same indoors as out, but a cold lover can't say they love the feel of raw cold, as in without any thing else than what they'd wear in their heated homes. Cold lovers don't actually love cold.
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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I wonder if it is a rocket science or not, but I don't think it is !

When people are given a choice and compare, they will tell you what's the normal comfort levels for human.

I know people from South Asia, who moved to Canada. Now they are given the choice and experienced both. They said India is hot hot hot, and the love the summer weather in Canada (around 25C/77F).

If people are not given the choice, say they live in a dessert. They will have to adapt to the condition where they are living in. Say in the Middle East, people will cover themselves with all white clothing from head to toe like those in Saudi Arabia ... They will say "I am ok, I survive 45C ..."

Same as the natives who live in the Northwest Territories in Canada, they also survive the cold, -45C and they said "It's ok, I survive -45C ..."

The question here is: To logically and scientifically discuss the comfort temperatures that our human race love, I think it is between 20C(68F) and 30C(86F), give or take.

That's why I am afraid one day there will be people in this forum who claims it is comfortable at 45C (113F) or -45C ...
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:11 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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30 degrees, not 38 degrees.

21 is a bit cold if it's cloudy and windy. Low end of comfortable room temperature. Not a summer's day, more like early spring (in an ideal world).

People who say they love cold weather still don't like feeling cold though, why do they heat their homes, wear coats and hats etc...

To me the reason I like 25-30°C is because I like the way it feels, and can wear the same indoors as out, but a cold lover can't say they love the feel of raw cold, as in without any thing else than what they'd wear in their heated homes. Cold lovers don't actually love cold.
The same can be said of heat lovers. Why do they turn on the A/C, go swimming, and have cold drinks? And I know you've claimed you could live in a subtropical climate without A/C, but that's easy for someone who has never lived in a climate with hot summers to say.

At the end of the day, humans have a pretty narrow range of temperatures that can be considered comfortable. But thanks to technology and clothing, we're able to deal with much broader weather conditions.
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