Spring 2012 Thread (March-May) (town, humidity, dew point, USA)

[Weatherfan2]

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Met Office: British Isles: Visible satellite imagery

Seems like a lucky minority are getting the sun today.

Temperatures, much down on yesterday

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[Patricius Maximus]

Originally Posted by MrMarbles

I'm sorry but only an Alaska resident would call 70F days a "blast furnace of heat".

Thank you. My body certainly has that kind of build . I could speculate where one would have to live to need to wear a hoodie when it's 70F, but I'll lay off of that whole silly and pointless track of discussion.

It's actually quite pleasant and you still need a hoodie most of the time when not in direct sunshine.

Perhaps you should use the pronoun "I" instead of "you". Last time I checked neither I nor anyone else was your clone, so stop pretending your personal standards are objectively good for the entire human race. I don't mind if you find 70's Fahrenheit pleasant, but I will not tolerate anyone attempting to shove their own views down my throat or anyone else's throat. Differing preferences should be respected, not disregarded or denied. I have respected your weather preferences and it is time for you to reciprocate.

Also I'd be very depressed if I had to wait until May to see plant growth.

Then steer clear of any of my dream climates .

[nei]

Originally Posted by MrMarbles

It's actually quite pleasant and you still need a hoodie most of the time when not in direct sunshine.

Really? I thought that'd only be common in tropical countries, or maybe in the middle of a hot summer after being out in the heat. That's roughly room temperature...

[dunno what to put here]

Originally Posted by Weatherfan2

Metoffice UK Satellite

Met Office: British Isles: Visible satellite imagery

Seems like a lucky minority are getting the sun today.

Temperatures, much down on yesterday

weather forecast United Kingdom - Overview - WeatherOnline

War and sunny here and 14.3C

[Weatherfan2]

Originally Posted by dunno what to put here

War and sunny here and 14.3C

Sun's also come out here now but too little too late. Not going to get above 9 degrees. The warmest (officially) place in the UK today is only 16 degrees despite the metoffice saying 17 degrees across the midlands. Most of the midlands has also been generally overcast today. Tomorrow better be better.

[ilovemycomputer90]

Originally Posted by Patricius Maximus

I do prefer an extended winter lasting into April and dormancy lasting until May; however I still know and appreciate a Spring as long as it is in its proper place. For me that's later in the season in May or June. Of course once we enter June we're entering subarctic territory, which my dream climate is a part of, and Spring (which occurs in the summer months) just transitions back to Winter at that point. I don't like a real Summer myself, so my dream climate doesn't feature proper four seasons, however I have not lost sight of what a proper, prototypical four-season climate is, and the standards I use as a climatic benchmark.

This week's strange 70 F weather would be my ideal late spring and summer conditions. While 70 F is certainly nice, bugs and allergies are going to be quite a nuisance this year if the warm weather keeps up. Fortunately I don't suffer from allergies (most of the time), but many people do.

In my "dream climate" winter would basically last into the April, but March and April would be the start of a slow transition (40s becoming more common than 20s and 30s, rain more common than snow, etc.) A handful of days may reach the 50s in March and April, but that would be about as balmy as it gets. The record cold in April 2007 really had an effect on my attitude towards extended winters.

Originally Posted by nei

The change in Daylight Savings Time has brought spring!

I wish we would stop observing this! I feel like a zombie today since I had to wake up at 5:30, which was really 4:30 since our bodies need a few days to adjust to the change. Though it'll be nice for outdoor activities, I'm not looking forward to the later light. Only a little over three months until the days start getting shorter.

[MrMarbles]

Originally Posted by nei

Really? I thought that'd only be common in tropical countries, or maybe in the middle of a hot summer after being out in the heat. That's roughly room temperature...

1. I wear a hoodie or a sweater indoors too during winter.
2. 70f is just a max. Most of the day is not quite that warm. Plus it's quite breezy especially if you are near the water. But if I'm in the sun then of course just a t-shirt will be fine

[Patricius Maximus]

Originally Posted by MrMarbles

2. 70f is just a max. Most of the day is not quite that warm. Plus it's quite breezy especially if you are near the water.

Ah. I was referring to a particular set of conditions, i.e. it actually "being 70F", not a "70F day". Still, from what I've you do wear a hoodie or sweater in 70F weather, assuming you're in the shade. Of course it feels warmer in the sun.

But if I'm in the sun then of course just a t-shirt will be fine

Curious. In that sort of weather I try to get out of sunlight, whereas I assume you try to get in it. I have a similar reaction in 25F weather, where I will often be wearing a vest or (more unusually) a light coat, and need to take it off when in sunlight due to the heating. Same phenomenon, but 50 degrees apart. My usual attire for 25F weather is short sleeves and shorts, with that outfit being ubiquitous for short excursions, and I often wear shorts and short sleeves down to 10-20 Fahrenheit. However when I'm wearing a vest or coat in that weather I don't need to take them off when in sunlight.

Do you take off your hoodie in 70F and full sun out of necessity or just because you can and still be comfortable? If it's non-necessary, then we'd be separated by 55-60 degrees instead of 45.

Note: All of these outfit choices assume I'm just out in cold weather, not working or playing in snow, which requires heavier clothing (not just walking on snow but for instance wallowing in it). This is for isolating the air and sun factors, a purer comparison, seeing as MrMarbles is likely not throwing snowballs in 70F weather.

[MrMarbles]

Originally Posted by Patricius Maximus

Perhaps you should use the pronoun "I" instead of "you". Last time I checked neither I nor anyone else was your clone, so stop pretending your personal standards are objectively good for the entire human race. I don't mind if you find 70's Fahrenheit pleasant, but I will not tolerate anyone attempting to shove their own views down my throat or anyone else's throat. Differing preferences should be respected, not disregarded or denied. I have respected your weather preferences and it is time for you to reciprocate.

Relax buddy. I never intended to express anything more than just my opinion.

[MrMarbles]

Originally Posted by Patricius Maximus

Ah. I was referring to a particular set of conditions, i.e. it actually "being 70F", not a "70F day". Still, from what I've you do wear a hoodie or sweater in 70F weather, assuming you're in the shade. Of course it feels warmer in the sun.

Curious. In that sort of weather I try to get out of sunlight, whereas I assume you try to get in it. I have a similar reaction in 25F weather, where I will often be wearing a vest or (more unusually) a light coat, and need to take it off when in sunlight due to the heating. Same phenomenon, but 50 degrees apart. My usual attire for 25F weather is short sleeves and shorts, with that outfit being ubiquitous for short excursions, and I often wear shorts and short sleeves down to 10-20 Fahrenheit. However when I'm wearing a vest or coat in that weather I don't need to take them off when in sunlight.

Do you take off your hoodie in 70F and full sun out of necessity or just because you can and still be comfortable? If it's non-necessary, then we'd be separated by 55-60 degrees instead of 45.

Note: All of these outfit choices assume I'm just out in cold weather, not working or playing in snow, which requires heavier clothing (not just walking on snow but for instance wallowing in it). This is for isolating the air and sun factors, a purer comparison, seeing as MrMarbles is likely not throwing snowballs in 70F weather.

This is all very context dependent so I cannot answer definitively. What does it depend on? How cloudy it is, the wind, whether I'm walking briskly or just taking a leisurely stroll or having a bite to eat on a patio, even whether I had a hot tea or a cold soda before going outside.

At 70F and full sun I would feel hot in a hoodie. The sun can be quite strong here at 40 degrees latitude. In my earlier comment, I did state "not in direct sunshine". But in the shade, 70F can be uncomfortable in a t-shirt if I'm just sitting still and there is a breeze.