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Old 05-13-2012, 06:06 AM
 
Location: SWCT, close to coast
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Also at first in the beginning of the thread I thought you were trying to say it was especially snowy this spring in the West when there was a previous year equal or more severe. Didn't realize you were familiar with how extreme last year was.
Oh no, last year was extreme for sure BUT...if you really dig deep you'll find some spots have reached last years totals or come close. Precip wasnt much this year until the start of the new year when La Nina was breaking down.

Mt Baker has over 800 inches this year. Last year they had 857 BUT, every single month this year has surpassed the snow amounts of last year EXCEPT December.

Mt Baker Ski Area :: Snowfall Statistics

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Mt. Baker, WA has surpassed average season snowfall exceeding 800 inches.
World record was set by them in 1998-99 with 1,140 inches of snow. Mt Rainier is the runner up.
Snow at Mt. Baker Ski Area exceeds 800 inches, beats average - Outdoors - bellinghamherald.com
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:05 AM
 
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I hope he's ok and he finds safety.

Summer temps but snow still in store for hikers - Seattle News - MyNorthwest.com

Summer temps but snow still in store for hikers

A hiker missing since Wednesday in the Olympic National Park has been rescued.


David Snider, 55, went out around 4 p.m. on a relatively mild afternoon for what he expected to be a short hike. He was not prepared for the cold he encountered higher up after he lost track of the trail.
"It didn't snow during the day, but there was snow on the ground. He hiked in and out of the snow. That is actually how we were able to locate him, because he had left tracks in the snow


Even if you stay on the lower trails, streams and rivers are running fast and high. They are unusually challenging to cross. Daytime temperatures are in the 70's, but overnight temps are still dipping back down into the 30's.
Although you might only be planning a short trek, McKenna says you should always bring extra clothing, food and water. Also, remember to take along the ten essentials of hiking. You never know when you might be in for a night in the cold
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Western Massachusetts
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Awesome friggin pictures. Consider yourself blessed for being there and able to enjoy Earths landscape snow or not.
It was fun. And walking in snow regularly in August was interesting. I can say I saw more snow last summer than last winter.

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Here's a picture Rocky Mountain National park posted. They sound suprised its snowing in May. Maybe that spot doesnt usually see it?
Yea, I think the Pacific NW mountains are the most prone to late season snowfalls. They warm up slowly in the spring and the summers are mild in general. I don't know as much about the Rockies. The snow the Cascades gets is much wetter than the Rockies, so there's more water to melt per inch of snow.
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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Oh no, last year was extreme for sure BUT...if you really dig deep you'll find some spots have reached last years totals or come close. Precip wasnt much this year until the start of the new year when La Nina was breaking down.

Mt Baker has over 800 inches this year. Last year they had 857 BUT, every single month this year has surpassed the snow amounts of last year EXCEPT December.
I think last year had a similar if not more extreme pattern. A lot of places were getting slightly below average snowfall until late winter. Some of the mountains were getting most of their snowfall in March and April. Together with the cool and wet late spring and early summer, snow lingered much longer than usual, one month behind schedule some places two. One hiker told me that the snow levels we were seeing in mid August were typical of mid to late June! On that particular mountain, normally by then the wildflowers would have bloomed already and been done. Instead there was snow on the top (likely was going to melt within a week or 2 max).

Didn't some snowfall totals are comparable with last year. Still, with the currently much warmer spring, I'd expect the snow levels to melt out much quicker. Last the Mt. Baker Highway never got plowed there was so much.
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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David Snider, 55, went out around 4 p.m. on a relatively mild afternoon for what he expected to be a short hike. He was not prepared for the cold he encountered higher up after he lost track of the trail.
"It didn't snow during the day, but there was snow on the ground. He hiked in and out of the snow. That is actually how we were able to locate him, because he had left tracks in the snow


Even if you stay on the lower trails, streams and rivers are running fast and high. They are unusually challenging to cross. Daytime temperatures are in the 70's, but overnight temps are still dipping back down into the 30's.
Although you might only be planning a short trek, McKenna says you should always bring extra clothing, food and water. Also, remember to take along the ten essentials of hiking. You never know when you might be in for a night in the cold
Seems a typical combination when you have a warmup after a long cold wintry stretch. It should have been obvious that snow would still be there up in the mountains... it takes a while to melt. Last year, I used my footprints at times to find my route back as snow makes trailfinding difficult. Snow in sneakers = water in sneakers = stinky shoes and socks.

While not "winter in the west" here's last April on Mt. Washington:

Mount Washington Observatory (MWOBS) – Photo Journal

Here's some photos of the ravines below the summit currently:

Mount Washington Avalanche Center

Lot of snow in the bowl but unstable. Dangerous.
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Old 05-15-2012, 05:13 PM
 
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She's coming to an end slowly but surely.

This is from Denali National Park and Preserve in Alaska

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Old 05-16-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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Its possible NorthWest U.S sees snow around the 25th. GFS continues to hint at a Cold Upper Level Low which would bring a lot of snow to the mountains in Oregon and Washington.

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Old 05-16-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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Here's how the current snowpack in Washington compares to average:

ftp://ftp.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/data/wat...mal_update.pdf
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Old 05-20-2012, 08:38 PM
 
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US National Weather Service Seattle Washington

An unseasonably strong cold front will usher in a cooler air mass on Monday. The lowlands will be cool and wet - with locally breezy winds at time through Thursday. Snow levels will fall Monday night to around 4000 feet, with snow possible for the higher mountain passes and roads through Thursday.

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Old 05-20-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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Its possible NorthWest U.S sees snow around the 25th. GFS continues to hint at a Cold Upper Level Low which would bring a lot of snow to the mountains in Oregon and Washington.
Looks like GFS was right from a week+ out. Nice. Thats a lot of qpf amounts! Maybe high peaks going to be measured in feet??

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KSEW - Seattle, WA SPECIAL WEATHER STATMENT

333 PM PDT SUN MAY 20 2012

...A FRONTAL SYSTEM FOLLOWED BY AN UPPER TROUGH WILL BRING A
TRANSITION TO COOL WET WEATHER EARLY THIS WEEK...

AN UNSEASONABLY STRONG COLD FRONT WILL MOVE THROUGH ON
MONDAY...BRINGING A SOAKING RAINFALL AND BREEZY TO LOCALLY WINDY CONDITIONS TO WESTERN WASHINGTON. AN UPPER TROUGH WILL FOLLOW THE FRONT MONDAY NIGHT AND TUESDAY AND WILL PERSIST THROUGH ABOUT THURSDAY...BRINGING COOL AND SHOWERY WEATHER.

THE CHANGE TO THE WEATHER PATTERN WILL BE MOST SIGNIFICANT IN THE MOUNTAINS. AHEAD OF THE FRONT TONIGHT AND MONDAY...THE SNOW LEVEL WILL BE IN THE 7000 TO 8000 FOOT RANGE. PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS OF A HALF TO ONE AND A HALF INCHES ARE LIKELY. THE SNOW LEVEL WILL FALL IN THE WAKE OF THE COLD FRONT MONDAY NIGHT AND BE AROUND 4000 FEET TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. ANOTHER ONE HALF TO ONE AND ONE HALF INCHES OF PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY TUESDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE HIGHER MOUNTAIN HIGHWAYS WILL HAVE SOME SNOWFALL AT TIMES...BUT SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL ACCUMULATION IS MOST LIKELY IN THE MOUNTAINS ABOVE ABOUT 5000 FEET.

PEOPLE PLANNING TO VENTURE INTO THE BACKCOUNTRY SHOULD EXPECT MUCH COOLER CONDITIONS WITH RAIN AND SNOW. SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS ARE LIKELY ABOVE 5000 FEET...ESPECIALLY ON THE VOLCANOES.
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