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Old 11-30-2012, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Estonia has such a great climate, and it's such a great country - wish I could live there.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Estonia
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That's high praise coming from someone who lives where a good percentage of the Estonian population have emigrated to. Lately they've started coming back though, saying that the standard of living is similar and they'd rather live at home. Maybe it's just propaganda to keep the remaining few from leaving the country so politicians actually have to feed themselves.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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What most do is work for a few years and then go home - some stay, some don't. Everything here is really expensive, so Estonia might offer a similar standard of living, depending on how much you earn.

Whichever way you look at it, I'd still love to live there.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Harbor Springs, Michigan
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Winter is on hold here in Wasilla Alaska, we are currently experiencing a Matanuska windstorm with winds @ 70-80mph gusting to 100+ , make no bones about it if this were any other part of the US they would call it a 'superstorm' or a hurricane but these winds occur here all the time in the winter months.
Temps now are around 20F but below 0F with windchill.
We have no snow to speak of and temps have been hovering around 10F during the day and into negatives overnight. Lots of frosty mornings with ice fog making driving hazardous.
Fingers crossed for some of the white stuff for Christmas.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Front Range of Colorado
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Please note that over 80% of the country is pretty balmy for this time of the year.


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Old 11-30-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Paris
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I think Hiromat lives in Tallin, which is near water. Tallin's winter lows are slightly warmer than me, 17° further north. I can't remember ever having a below zero °F in early December, let alone -13°F, so yes that sounds extremely cold for the location, unless Estonia is much more variable than my location, which highly doubt. Most likely the reverse is true.
Fwiw, here are the number of occurences of low temps under 0°F, -10°F and -20°F in Tallinn and Chicopee since 2008. Numbers are probably a bit off but oh well:

Tallinn
42 lows < 0°F
16 lows < -10°F
2 lows < -20°F

Chicopee
28 lows < 0°F
9 lows < -10°F
1 low < -20°F

Over the same period, the average winter low was around 20°F in Tallinn and 18°F in Chicopee, both warmer than average, though more so in MA. So despite warmer nights on average, Tallinn got a significantly higher number of bitter cold mins. Of course the period is too short to be representative, but I think it's interesting nonetheless.


Far north from Estonia, but here's an example of how variable the cold spots of Scandinavia can be (towards the end of the month):
http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/K...1999/10470.htm

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Old 11-30-2012, 03:11 PM
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Thanks for the comparison. Estonia is more variable in its winter lows than I assumed. Being closer to a source of polar cold probably is a big help. For whatever reason, Chicopee records colder lows than another nearby station, Amherst. For 1981-2011, here is the mean number of lows / year:

Amherst

lows < 0°F: 8.39 / year
lows < -10°F: 1.32 / year
lows < -20°F: 0.11 / year

COOP Monthly Data (3200) list Form

select "Daily Minimum Temperature" under "Select Element", "Number of Days" under "Select Statistic" and type the year range and thershold (such as 0°F) under thershold range
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:14 PM
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These temperatures lasted for three weeks and it dropped to -39°C in other parts of the country. The average temperature of February is a mere -7°C. Dunno is right about the snow as well. There's usually nearly a meter of it by mid-March and that's lying snow, not precipitation. Even now after two days of snowing there's more than 30 cm and winter has barely begun. Ice roads to islands can be open from mid-January to early April. Some winters are of course milder but on average it's the longest and strongest season. The climate is on the border of temperate and sub-Arctic.
Ah. Colder than I thought; we would never get that much on the ground except after a series of big snowstorms. The higher sun angle (and more sunshine) plus warmer day time temperatures means cold is less consistent.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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Far north from Estonia, but here's an example of how variable the cold spots of Scandinavia can be (towards the end of the month):
Climate in Kautokeino in January 1999 - Historical weather records
Hah, I actually remember that getting a mention on our national TV weather forecasts!

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Thanks for the comparison. Estonia is more variable in its winter lows than I assumed. Being closer to a source of polar cold probably is a big help. For whatever reason, Chicopee records colder lows than another nearby station, Amherst. For 1981-2011, here is the mean number of lows / year:

Amherst

lows < 0°F: 8.39 / year
lows < -10°F: 1.32 / year
lows < -20°F: 0.11 / year

COOP Monthly Data (3200) list Form

select "Daily Minimum Temperature" under "Select Element", "Number of Days" under "Select Statistic" and type the year range and thershold (such as 0°F) under thershold range
The fact you're even using increments as big as 10F to show the variability of your climate makes ours look like a joke. Being on a hilltop and in a big city, Hampstead doesn't do cold nights. Until last night we were holding an average low of 41F without a single frost. We had a few colder nights in the 80s but the coldest in the past 20 years was a mere 20F/-6.7C, which happened in February 2012.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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Snow cover in northern Europe has advanced rapidly, Scandinavia is virtually covered.

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