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At the behest of , I have initiated the much-awaited climate battle between our two dream climates. The original source for my dream climate is here, and my competitor's original is here.
My dream climate, which is named Patricianopolis, features very cold and very snowy winters coupled with short and pleasantly warm summers. The precipitation pattern peaks in spring and autumn, with a trough in winter and a deeper trough in summer that produces a true dry season, albeit a weak one. Snow falls from September to May, with June snow being uncommon and snow in July and August being rare. Snowfall is abundant, and from November to March blizzards are a regular occurrence. Windstorms are frequent throughout the year, with gale-force gusts being common year-round and gusts in excess of 50 mph often occurring outside of summer. Summer lows are typically quite stable, typically staying in the 40's, with variance down to 35F or up to 55F being normal. Humidity is low year-round, and thus lows or dew points above 60F are rare, and there have been some periods where years have gone by with no lows of 50F or warmer. When heat waves (80+ F) occur in summer it's typically a very dry heat and thus nighttime lows remain as they were or even become cooler. In a typical year, the hottest reading is 82F and the coldest reading is -42F.
assesses my climate as having very long winters where extreme cold and snow is commonplace, coupled with a short, mild summer as an interlude. Winter lasts from about the middle of September to the middle of May.
Next up is my competitor in this climate battle, 's dream climate. The creator describes it as a four-season Continental Mediterranean climate featuring warm to hot summers and cold winters. Spring and Autumn are extended and feature mild temperatures. Sunshine and precipitation is highly seasonal. Summer is very sunny with low precipitation. Spring, Autumn, and Winter are cloudier and feature higher precipitation. The entirety of this climate's snowfall comes in the period from late November through early March.
I assess 's climate as having winters that are shorter and quite mild with rain being as common as snow, and featuring longer and unrelentingly hot summers.
For anyone that is interested in such things, the Koeppen type for Patricianopolis is Dsc, and the Trewartha type is E. All of these correspond to the subarctic climate type. For my competitor's climate, the Koeppen type is Csa (Dsa if the 0C isotherm is used), and the Trewartha type is Cs. All of these correspond to the broader Mediterranean or Continental Mediterranean climate group.
Strangely enough, despite the vast differences, both of our dream climates feature a summer dry season, and have a "Mediterranean" precipitation pattern.
Below are Wikipedia-style weather boxes for our two climates:
In case the images go bad due to link rot in the future, I've included text-based backups from the original sources:
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Originally Posted by
The exact format for what it shows: Month, Average High and Low temperature, Precipitation, Sky condition, Sunshine hours, Precipitation Rain days and Snow days, Record High and Record Low.
January 35/24, 6.05 (2.51 in snow form=31 inches of snow and 3.54 in Rain form), 19 cloudy 5 partly cloudy 7 sunny, 79 sunshine hours, 10 precipitation days/4 with snow and 6 with rain, Record low: -28 below zero. Record high:70
February 40/29, 6.03 (1.25 in snow form=15 inches of snow and 4.78 in Rain form), 14 cloudy 4 partly cloudy 10 sunny, 103 sunshine hours, 11 precipitation days/3 with snow and 8 with rain), Record low: -22 below zero Record high:73
March 55/45, 11.59 (11.34 in rain form and 0.25 in snow form =3 inches of snow), 26 cloudy 5 sunny, 46 sunshine hours, 20 precipitation days/19 with rain and 1 with snow), Record high:80 Record low: 8
April 64/53, 6.29 (*all in rain form until Late November) 10 cloudy 10 partly cloudy 10 sunny, 172 sunshine hours, 10 precipitation days, Record high:85 Record low:28
May 69/56, 6.10, 14 sunny 3 partly cloudy 13 cloudy, 200 sunshine hours, 11 precipitation days, Record high:95 Record low:40
June 84/62, 2.41, 26 sunny 4 cloudy, 398 sunshine hours, 3 precipitation days, Record high:104 Record low:51
July 92/66, 0.50, 30 sunny 1 cloudy, 441 sunshine hours, 1 precipitation day, Record high:106 Record low:55
August 91/65, 0.72, 30 sunny 1 cloudy, 418 sunshine hours, 1 precipitation day, Record high:106 Record low:53
September 83/61, 2.63, 26 sunny 4 cloudy, 361 sunshine hours, 3 precipitation days, Record high:103 Record low:50
October 65/55, 6.09, 15 sunny 12 cloudy 3 partly cloudy. 159 sunshine hours, 11 precipitation days. Record high:95 Record low:38
November 55/44, 11.50 (11.25 in rain form and .25 in snow form=3 inches of snow), 25 cloudy 5 sunny, 40 sunshine hours, 19 precipitation days, Record high:80 Record low:9
December 41/30, 6.33 (1.00 in snow form=12 inches of snow and 5.33 in rain form), 18 cloudy 7 partly cloudy 6 sunny, 75 sunshine hours, 10 precipitation days/3 with snow and 7 with rain, Record low: -20 below zero. Record high:73
Annual sunshine hours: 2,492.
Annual precipitation: 66.23 inches
*Highly seasonal sunshine/clouds/precipitation pattern.
Annual snowfall 64 inches. *Entirely from Latest November to Earliest March.
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Originally Posted by Patricius Maximus
This is the dream climate that I posted in the "Your dream climatic averages" thread. Although I have another name for this place on file, since this is my dream climate it shall have the moniker "Patricianopolis" for this thread, obviously named after myself. Predictably, I give this climate an A+. If what you see below looks familiar, it is, as the information was transcribed from the original post in that thread.
This fictional place's average is based on 30 years of equally fictitious weather data. Temps in Fahrenheit and Precip/Snow in Inches:
January: Avg Hi 3, Avg Lo -14, Rec Lo -70, Rec Hi 38, Avg Monthly Max 28, Avg Monthly Min -42, Avg Precip 1.59, Avg Snow 43.13
February: Avg Hi 8, Avg Lo -9, Rec Lo -56, Rec Hi 39, Avg Monthly Max 31, Avg Monthly Min -34, Avg Precip 1.86, Avg Snow 48.41
March: Avg Hi 30, Avg Lo 12, Rec Lo -45, Rec Hi 62, Avg Monthly Max 55, Avg Monthly Min -18, Avg Precip 4.09, Avg Snow 28.42
April: Avg Hi 47, Avg Lo 27, Rec Lo -23, Rec Hi 76, Avg Monthly Max 70, Avg Monthly Min 4, Avg Precip 3.97, Avg Snow 14.35
May: Avg Hi 58, Avg Lo 35, Rec Lo 3, Rec Hi 89, Avg Monthly Max 77, Avg Monthly Min 16, Avg Precip 2.57, Avg Snow 8.55
June: Avg Hi 65, Avg Lo 41, Rec Lo 10, Rec Hi 88, Avg Monthly Max 79, Avg Monthly Min 31, Avg Precip 1.14, Avg Snow 0.45
July: Avg Hi 66, Avg Lo 43, Rec Lo 24, Rec Hi 90, Avg Monthly Max 82, Avg Monthly Min 34, Avg Precip 1.17, Avg Snow 0.05
August: Avg Hi 63, Avg Lo 41, Rec Lo 20, Rec Hi 88, Avg Monthly Max 77, Avg Monthly Min 32, Avg Precip 1.58, Avg Snow 0.06
September: Avg Hi 53, Avg Lo 33, Rec Lo 2, Rec Hi 87, Avg Monthly Max 73, Avg Monthly Min 18, Avg Precip 3.97, Avg Snow 4.15
October: Avg Hi 43, Avg Lo 24, Rec Lo -42, Rec Hi 76, Avg Monthly Max 65, Avg Monthly Min 2, Avg Precip 3.11, Avg Snow 14.82
November: Avg Hi 30, Avg Lo 11, Rec Lo -44, Rec Hi 70, Avg Monthly Max 59, Avg Monthly Min -14, Avg Precip 4.02, Avg Snow 33.45
December: Avg Hi 8, Avg Lo -10, Rec Lo -50, Rec Hi 40, Avg Monthly Max 32, Avg Monthly Min -35, Avg Precip 1.65, Avg Snow 40.2
Average Annual Temperature: 29.5
Average Annual Maximum: 82
Average Annual Minimum: -42
Average Annual Precipitation: 30.72, with distinct peaks in Mar-Apr and Sep-Nov, and a trough in Dec-Feb, and a greater trough in Jun-Aug
Average Annual Snowfall: 236.04, usually between Sep and May, with Jun snow being uncommon and Jul-Aug snow being rare
Average Annual Sunshine: 2244 hours, peaking in June and troughing in November
As for myself, there is no surprise at all in which one I would choose. I voted for my own dream climate .
I absolutely hate 's dreary March and November. All the other months are better though, in particular I love the fabulously sunny and very warm summer, unlike PM's anemic one.
Definitely Patricianopolis for me, though I guess that's no surprise. Although 's climate looks good except for June through September (and I'm guessing the end of May and beginning of October).
Already there are some interesting remarks. I overlooked that my climate's competitor has dreary months unappealing to Dhdh. Keep those replies coming . I wonder if has voted yet .
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Originally Posted by NorthStarDelight
My team is currently down by one, come on cold lovers, vote!
Already there are some interesting remarks. I overlooked that my climate's competitor has dreary months unappealing to Dhdh.
Absolutely, to a point that those horrific sunshine hours would make me choose to spend a March in Patricianopolis in a heartbeat instead, as much as I hate cold
April to October is so immensely superior (to me) in your "competitor"'s climate that I have to chose it overall though
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I absolutely hate 's dreary March and November. All the other months are better though, in particular I love the fabulously sunny and very warm summer, unlike PM's anemic one.
Hence I'll vote for 's climate
I am glad that you love the summers in my dream climate and find it fabulous from June to September for 4 months. It is even sunnier and warmer than Nice’s summer, and sunnier and much drier than Singapore for those months.
I am not surprised that you don’t enjoy March and November.
I don’t find the weather in March and November to be dreary for that time of the year. I find it enjoyable, relaxing, and cozy for that time of the year just as much as the summer.
I equally enjoy the very sunny summer, and very cloudy early spring/late autumn/parts of the winter and just find that to be good strategic timing in the year.
Are your opinions for clouds and rain different when the weather is warmer? I assume it is.
Singapore has plenty of very wet months, and December in Singapore actually gets the same amount of November precipitation as my climate with the same exact amount of precipitation days. It is still sunnier than November and March (and much warmer), but my dream climate still has 4 much sunnier/drier months than Singapore.
By the way, that is awesome that you go between Nice France, Hong Kong China, and Singapore. That looks like a lot of fun to travel and live in those different places!
I'd die in your climate. Your January averages are beyond anything I've ever experienced or wish to experience. 236 inches of snowfall?? That's 70 times the amount of snow we've had this past winter. Lol no thank you. I'm shocked that anyone would want to suffer through such inhumane treatment.
TPP&F's winter is far too cold for me, and the lack of sunshine hours during some months looks very depressing. But as a whole it's MUCH closer to my dream climate.
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It is still sunnier than November and March (and much warmer), but my dream climate still has 4 much sunnier/drier months than Singapore.
