lordyitshot (climate, hot, warm, ice)

[lordyitshot]

It seems to me that the weather people in Pittsburgh, both the TV and newspaper ones, are afraid to say that the day is going to be hot. They say warm when it's hot. The temperatures today, July 13, 2012 are predicted to be high of 84 and low of 65. I quote from the newspaper: "It will be warm with high temperatures in the mid-eighties." My concept of hot is anything above 80 degrees. I have never been in 80 degree weather when it didn't feel hot. My friend in New York says that their weather men aren't afraid to scream--"it's going to be a hot one today!" Wouldn't it be great if communication systems allowed some rugged individualism in the door.

[Flight Simmer]

I incorperated a new village in Sunland called Penis Del Mar. Fascinating stuff that will no doubt solve your problems with 85F highs in Pittsburgh being labelled as hot. Well, my people of my country live in a way hotter climate. It results in such complications as being better than you, twisterfan, and ofcourse my people average dongs of 2,000,000,000,000 nanometers in length. that is due to our actual hot weather.

fascinating stuff. very riveting indeed.

I can offer you immigration to sunland, provided you give me 50 slabs of beer, 100 hot chicks to play with, and and semi-trailer load of -personal lubricant smuggled in Jack Daniel's bottles... I can offer you deportation to "Le Hole", where you will not annoy anyone anymore.... don't worry, it is a unique ecological system with rare animal species and the joy of cold subarctic paradise to take the edge of that blistering 85F Pittsburgh heat.

Do you accept the challenge?

[Patricius Maximus]

Originally Posted by lordyitshot

It seems to me that the weather people in Pittsburgh, both the TV and newspaper ones, are afraid to say that the day is going to be hot. They say warm when it's hot. The temperatures today, July 13, 2012 are predicted to be high of 84 and low of 65. I quote from the newspaper: "It will be warm with high temperatures in the mid-eighties." My concept of hot is anything above 80 degrees. I have never been in 80 degree weather when it didn't feel hot. My friend in New York says that their weather men aren't afraid to scream--"it's going to be a hot one today!" Wouldn't it be great if communication systems allowed some rugged individualism in the door.

I see that all the time on national outlets too, this shifting of language. What previously was referred to as "hot" is now referred to as "warm", even 100F is sometimes referred to as "record warm" . I agree that anything 80F and higher can fairly be classified as hot, and it sure feels hot to me regardless of humidity or sun or clouds. If it was just me I'd refer to anything above 75F or so as hot, depending on the circumstances, since 70's for me border on hot, but I prefer to remain more objective than that. Language seems to be shifting on the other side too - what was previously referred to as "chilly" or "cold" is now often referred to as "cold" and "very cold", respectively. I've also noticed in recent years there's been a proliferation of "bitter cold" referring to anything significantly below freezing, and this year "brutally cold" has even come into the mix for milder temperatures too. There are a few exceptions. I see some reporters from more northern climates refer to even 10F as just chilly, not brutally cold as some Mid-Atlantic outlets might like to think. I think this ties into the trend of a huge heat-and-sun bias that has emerged in recent years, at least in North America. I don't believe in the controlling of language leading to the control of thought, but I think language is important because it reflects thought, and the trend is clear.

There is also geographical variations. Media in NYC like to hype up the heat, and so they are unafraid to proclaim how extremely hot it is. On the other side, media in Minnesota don't refer to bitter cold as anything below freezing. In fact in my experience the consensus there for what constitutes true cold is 0F and below.

I've seen national and East Coast media hype up cold saying how brutal it's going to be, and thoughts flash into my head like this when they proclaim it's going to get "brutally cold":

- 40 Below!
- Instant frostbite!
- Biting pain from the wind
- Ice fog!
- Cars and glasses caked in ice

But then I open my eyes and see that the temperature there is barely making it below 20F . There's definitely a dissonance between me and the media outlets when they say it's so brutally cold at the same time I'm wheeling the garbage outside in a polo shirt.

But back to the original subject, there is a trend towards minimizing heat and hyping cold, but there is a lot of variation, and I definitely agree that more individuality, flair, and personality need to be injected into the media reports. After all, a bunch of generic, faceless television news reporters don't offer much over an equally stale article you can find anywhere on the internet. On the other hand, if you offer coverage you can't get anywhere else with a lot of charm, individuality, and personality, then it's no contest.


As for Flight Simmer's post, I don't know what to make of such an off-topic and incoherent comment.

[Flight Simmer]

Originally Posted by Patricius Maximus

As for Flight Simmer's post, I don't know what to make of such an off-topic and incoherent comment.

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clearly you are unable to distinguish a recurring troll from a legit member but what else is new

Here's a hint bro... the incoherent title... and the simple fact that the incoherent title is recycled from this edition of twisterfan's alias's

[Patricius Maximus]

Originally Posted by Flight Simmer

clearly you are unable to distinguish a recurring troll from a legit member but what else is new

He may not be a legitimate member but it is a legitimate post. From time to time even "bad guys" can do good things, which is a distinction you don't seem to appreciate.

Here's a hint bro... the incoherent title... and the simple fact that the incoherent title is recycled from this edition of twisterfan's alias's

Incoherent? The "troll" scores much better in that area than you do. I agree with you on the title, though.

[dhdh]

Originally Posted by lordyitshot

It seems to me that the weather people in Pittsburgh, both the TV and newspaper ones, are afraid to say that the day is going to be hot. They say warm when it's hot. The temperatures today, July 13, 2012 are predicted to be high of 84 and low of 65. I quote from the newspaper: "It will be warm with high temperatures in the mid-eighties." My concept of hot is anything above 80 degrees. I have never been in 80 degree weather when it didn't feel hot. My friend in New York says that their weather men aren't afraid to scream--"it's going to be a hot one today!" Wouldn't it be great if communication systems allowed some rugged individualism in the door.

And your point is?

84 F is warm to me, not hot. Hot starts at the mid 90's F/34-35 C...

[Hiromant]

The term for bitter cold here, "pakane," used to describe temperatures of -25° C (-13° F) and below. Recently it's been moving up to -15° C (5° F) and sometimes even warmer than that. It's quite funny to read about a deadly -13° C (9° F) cold wave destroying all life when temperatures far lower than that are quite common here.

It gets really ridiculous when the term "paukuv pakane," meaning fulminating freeze, named after trees that start to freeze through and loudly burst at sub -35° C, is used to describe these slightly chilly temperatures.

At the same time, news pieces constantly make subjective evaluations about weather, saying it "improves" when it's getting sunny and hot and it's "bad" if it's cloudy or rainy. I get that 75% of the population are sunbunnies who want to spend their lives on the beach but this is just unnecessary. Luckily some people recognize this and often openly criticize such news pieces.

[Nivalis]

I don't see the point of individualism when you're broadcasting the weather to a metropolitan area. Standards are best because it doesn't cause confusion. 84 isn't hot for Pittsburgh because the average high is 83. 94 is.

[deneb78]

It's all perspective... the weatherperson here would call a high of 84F a very hot day indeed.. but this is Vancouver where most people break a sweat if the temperature goes above 75F

[Patricius Maximus]

Originally Posted by Hiromant

It gets really ridiculous when the term "paukuv pakane," meaning fulminating freeze, named after trees that start to freeze through and loudly burst at sub -35° C, is used to describe these slightly chilly temperatures.

That is even more ridiculous than the reports I see. Bitter or brutal does have some subjectivity and thus flexibility to it, but a phrase like that does not. It's the same with declaring 60F weather to be "freezing", referencing the freezing point of water .

At the same time, news pieces constantly make subjective evaluations about weather, saying it "improves" when it's getting sunny and hot and it's "bad" if it's cloudy or rainy.

I see that where I live too. It's quite annoying.