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Both of those places are warmer than NYC, and have dramatically different climates. NYC shouldn't look like them. It has much more in common with the American subtropics, and supports many species native to that region.
Yep, I see what you're saying ...., a different climate.
The plants native to New York are subtropical. Tropical plants can't grow there, but they can't in most of the subtropics, either.
Many plants from other subtropical climates can't grow in NYC either eg- Sydney or the Azores. So there can't be a commonality to subtropical vegetation, therefore there isn't such thing as subtropical species.
That list should even be shortened too, like Memphis and Norfolk removed.
New York City does not get regular snow. It averages 27 inches per year, which is still less than rain for its total winter precipitation. It is less than half the average snow fall as all the humid continental climates, so it certainly wouldn't qualify there.
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New York City has spent $130 million on snow removal this year. It shouldn't have to be able to do this if it was subtropical.
Did you not see that Texas, Alabama, and Georgia got hammered three times this winter with extreme winter conditions? Does that make them not subtropical too? The difference is they flat out don't carry the equipment. New York City has snow removal equipment because the rest of the state has a true humid continental climate.
I don't know how you can call NYC snow "regular" when statistically it is more likely to rain in its coldest month than snow.
Ahh, excuse me for pointing out the obvious and sorry for yelling but THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG!!!
I can't say I've seen anyone imply they were the same, but I know I never did, neither of them even share the same climate type.
But even still, every [insert climate type] climate isn't the same, Dallas and Bermuda are both subtropical yet they have very different climates and geographies.
I would say its continental. Humid Subtropical is anything south of Atlantic city, NJ to be very exact. NYC gets the same amount of snow as Indianapolis and is cooler than Indy in the summer, yet why is it subtropical and Indianapolis continental .
The dividing line between Subtropical and continental is single Vs. double digit average snowfall totals in inches.
I would say its continental. Humid Subtropical is anything south of Atlantic city, NJ to be very exact. NYC gets the same amount of snow as Indianapolis and is cooler than Indy in the summer, yet why is it subtropical and Indianapolis continental .
The dividing line between Subtropical and continental is single Vs. double digit average snowfall totals in inches.
Like around Cape May, NJ?
For me I would say more like Virginia Beach, they have some Sabal Palms there.
Or northernmost area where Sabal Palms (Palmettos) naturally occur, SE North Carolina.
NYC is subtropical. So is the South and most of Florida. Obviously all 3 are very diff weatherwise. NYC gets pretty cold. The South gets pretty chilly to cold. And Florida esp Orlando and south doesn't get much chill at all. When describing the weather of NYC it should be NYC has a blank subtropical climate. Or just call it something else. NYC high temps avg 30s-80s, most of the south avg highs are 40s-50s to near or in the 90s, and most of Fl avg highs are 70s-90s. So clearly different. But for the most part we know all this already anyway. Though NYC and Tampa subtropical we are for sure not going to bust out the shorts in NYC in Feb(unless a rare warm spell is occurring)at least most won't, but in Tampa in Feb we will more than likely be able to be in summer like attire. This is an old climate classification system from the 1800s-early 1900s, it just needs to be fine tuned, revamped, or just go by a new system.
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