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Zero hope of snowfall for the in the New York City Area
What a pathetic joke winter has become : crying:
Actually, it seems just the other way around, it appears that Accuweather's weather outlooks the last few seasons have turned out to be a pathetic joke in one way or another. To take their forecasts so seriously for a whole monthly is like placing a bet when signs are already headed contrary to what Accuweather has forecasted for the fall, for example, They predicted EARLY Freezes for much of the Midwestern United states such as Indiana; I know for a fact that at least some locations in the Central U.S. DID NOT GET an EARLY SEASON FREEZE. In Fact in Indianapolis the first freeze was a few days LATER than the normal date of October 16, this year it came on October 22nd. I seriously doubt and I find the forecast for your area to be extremely DUBIOUS in Accuracy and should be counted as being very Unreliable for as well as subject to dramatic changes as the time preceding the period of days gets closer. Your location, while I cannot predict exactly what is in the cards, I know for a fact that your area will see at least some days in the 20's if not in the 10's before the end of December. I might even venture to guess that your area might even see lows in the single digits before the winter is through, but I feel time will tell on this guesstimate, I have made a prediction that at least where I live that this winter will be colder than 2011-2012 or last winter, it very well might also be colder and snowier than many so called 'expert' weather forecasters are predicting for your area.
Actually, it seems just the other way around, it appears that Accuweather's weather outlooks the last few seasons have turned out to be a pathetic joke in one way or another.
They have been horrible in predicting long range as of late. Compare their forecast with they pattern potential that our local met office is picking up for the winter in the graphic below.
This was Bastardi's December forecast issued on Nov 12th (left), Nov 26th (middle), and on the right is the latest CFSV2 for the rest of month
Can we get that storm track to move up a couple of hundred miles toward Chicago please!!
Hard freeze in SoCal next Monday
Last edited by chicagogeorge; 12-04-2013 at 05:31 AM..
Zero hope of snowfall for the in the New York City Area
What a pathetic joke winter has become : crying:
Most people forget that in terms of climatology places south of 40 latitude in the USA see only infrequent snow on average.
I have lived in the Tri-State area (NY/NJ/CT) as well, and when you really think about it, how often is the snow before late December in places like New Brunswick, Trenton, NYC, New Haven...etc? I think we need to remember that the real snow season starts in late, not early December.
Most people forget that in terms of climatology places south of 40 latitude in the USA see only infrequent snow on average.
The funny thing is though, Texas and Arkansas much further down south get heavy snowfall and we get nothing. That's what annoys me a lot. 6-8" of snow is not a big deal here and all the roads are clear within a few hours, while down there they are unprepared and stuck. It has been 3 years since I saw a good solid snow pack in Winter, and this seems to provide the wrong impression that Jersey will never again have a winter and is bound to a 3 season climate. Spring, Summer, and Fall.
I have lived in the Tri-State area (NY/NJ/CT) as well, and when you really think about it, how often is the snow before late December in places like New Brunswick, Trenton, NYC, New Haven...etc? I think we need to remember that the real snow season starts in late, not early December.
Even up here, snow more than an inch or two usually doesn't happen until after mid December.
The funny thing is though, Texas and Arkansas much further down south get heavy snowfall and we get nothing. That's what annoys me a lot. 6-8" of snow is not a big deal here and all the roads are clear within a few hours, while down there they are unprepared and stuck. It has been 3 years since I saw a good solid snow pack in Winter, and this seems to provide the wrong impression that Jersey will never again have a winter and is bound to a 3 season climate. Spring, Summer, and Fall.
Give it time.
My guess is NOAA is getting better and better at their predictions. They said a slow start to winter on the East Coast (the south Atlantic ridge is still strong)...and a hard finish in Feb with much more snow.
This pattern seems to happen rather often on the East Coast, the storm track stays west of the coast. It takes awhile for the pattern to **** all the way east in some years.
The outlook here in the UK for at least the first half of December could not possibly be worse, at all, if you are a coldie.
But nevertheless it is interesting how, on netweather.tv, they keep deludedly trying to spin it, and convince themselves otherwise. Better to just sit back and accept the weather you get.
My guess is NOAA is getting better and better at their predictions. They said a slow start to winter on the East Coast (the south Atlantic ridge is still strong)...and a hard finish in Feb with much more snow.
This pattern seems to happen rather often on the East Coast, the storm track stays west of the coast. It takes awhile for the pattern to **** all the way east in some years.
Give it time.
Moderate snowfall is being predicted on the 13th though with temps in the 20's-mid 30's F. Around 4.5" predicted for my area. That's 65 % of our average December snowfall in 1 storm.
Our usual is 7" for December, 12" for January, 8" for February, and 5" for March and November put together. Total of 32".
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Forecast the Rest of December
In Fact in Indianapolis the first freeze was a few days LATER than the normal date of October 16, this year it came on October 22nd. I seriously doubt and I find the forecast for your area to be extremely DUBIOUS in Accuracy and should be counted as being very Unreliable for as well as subject to dramatic changes as the time preceding the period of days gets closer.
Your location, while I cannot predict exactly what is in the cards, I know for a fact that your area will see at least some days in the 20's if not in the 10's before the end of December. I might even venture to guess that your area might even see lows in the single digits before the winter is through, but I feel time will tell on this guesstimate, I have made a prediction that at least where I live that this winter will be colder than 2011-2012 or last winter, it very well might also be colder and snowier than many so called 'expert' weather forecasters are predicting for your area.
