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We all know that the snow will be gone as soon as it falls in a place like that. You'd need an ice age to sustain snow there in october. Don't matter what elevation it is.
Sounding from Long Island,NY this morning shows temps went from 35F to 53F within couple hundred feet above their heads. Then dropped for a small level before going back up again. Cool stuff.
We all know that the snow will be gone as soon as it falls in a place like that. You'd need an ice age to sustain snow there in october. Don't matter what elevation it is.
And Cambium didn't claim there would be long-term snow cover, just that there would be snow. Are you trying to argue against a statement that hasn't been made for the sake of argument? Few non-arctic and maybe continental subarctic locations get snow that sticks around for long in October, in any case.
In any case, "we all know" is wrong because first, we don't all know that. And assumptions are often wrong. Data is available so that you can check before making a statement. Elevation almost always matters. Los Alamos, New Mexico had 9 days with snow on the ground one October in the 90s, 8 days another year.
And Cambium didn't claim there would be long-term snow cover, just that there would be snow. Are you trying to argue against a statement that hasn't been made for the sake of argument? Few non-arctic and maybe continental subarctic locations get snow that sticks around for long in October, in any case.
In any case, "we all know" is wrong because first, we don't all know that. And assumptions are often wrong. Data is available so that you can check before making a statement. Elevation almost always matters. Los Alamos, New Mexico had 9 days with snow on the ground one October in the 90s, 8 days another year.
Thank you and yes, I agree. As a snow geek I'll be excited mentioning Flurries even if a flake doesn't stick for more than 10 seconds. LOL!! I try not to respond to select few (not worth it) and I might have to use the ignore feature soon.
Speaking of snow... Do you believe this from the latest GFS for October 27th? I don't. Too far. But interesting to see a scenario like this. Trough digs deep and storm develops. Widespread 6-10" in those locations.
The month of October started off mild. 11 of the first 13 days were above average. 10 of the first 13 days had a high at least in the 70s. The jet stream pattern is changing and the result is going to be seasonably cool 60s for the next couple of days followed by highs in the 50s from Wednesday through the weekend. The longer range forecast from the Climate Prediction Center keeps us cooler than average through the third week of the month (see image below). The latest 6 to 10 day outlook has most of the country and all of the midwest outlooked for below average temperatures from October 19-23.
Snow on the back side of this storm, but not the 3ft+ that fell last week...
Extratropical transition usually means bad hemispheric forecasts from global models
Euro has a deep trough for the eastern US as a result of Wipha
Wow check out the northern Chinese mainland... Pretty cold.
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As of yesterday, the average high at O'Hare is 22.4C. Midway is at 23.0C. Northerly Island on the downtown lakeshore 21.1C, and here in the south suburbs 24.1C. But look at the remainder of the month.
Nice morning today for October — 51°F. Mild morning = no fog.
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