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Old 08-28-2013, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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Hey if some random coconut drifts up to the west coast of Ireland and establishes itself there, I'm all for that. But those crappy trachys didn't get to Paris naturally: somebody planted them there and they look absurd.

None of the palms found in Europe, mediterranean areas included (and probably also most of palms of California and southern US) have established themselves "naturally" there. There are all bee planted. In Europe the huge majority of trees have been planted or imported at one point of history, whatever they are palms or not.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island/NYC
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Butias (South American native) have naturalized in parts of the Southern US, I don't think they're invasive though.
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:14 PM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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None of the palms found in Europe, mediterranean areas included (and probably also most of palms of California and southern US) have established themselves "naturally" there. There are all bee planted. In Europe the huge majority of trees have been planted or imported at one point of history, whatever they are palms or not.
That might be the case in the temperate climates of Europe (no native palms) - and even California (only one native palm - Washingtonia)....but that incorrect in the Gulf/South Atlantic states, and esp Florida.

Florida has at least 7 types of native palms...including, Thrinax (Florida Thatchpalm), Serenoa repens (Saw Palm), Coccothrinax(Florida Silver Palm), Acoelorrhaphe (Paurotis Palm), Roystanea (Florida Royal Palm), Sable Palm (Sabal Palmetto), Needle Palm. Coconut palms have been growing wild in the Florida Keys since it was discovered in the 1500's.
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:17 PM
 
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I dislike these kind, anyone know what they are?

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Old 08-28-2013, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Rimini, Emilia-Romagna, Italy (44°0 N)
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I dislike these kind, anyone know what they are?
I think they're Sabal palmetto.
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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That might be the case in the temperate climates of Europe (no native palms) - and even California (only one native palm - Washingtonia)....but that incorrect in the Gulf/South Atlantic states, and esp Florida.

Florida has at least 7 types of native palms...including, Thrinax (Florida Thatchpalm), Serenoa repens (Saw Palm), Coccothrinax(Florida Silver Palm), Acoelorrhaphe (Paurotis Palm), Roystanea (Florida Royal Palm), Sable Palm (Sabal Palmetto), Needle Palm. Coconut palms have been growing wild in the Florida Keys since it was discovered in the 1500's.
What's your point, besides trying to make Europe and California (both oceanic/Mediterranean climates surprise, surprise ) sound like they're arctic?
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Florida has at least 7 types of native palms...including, Thrinax (Florida Thatchpalm), Serenoa repens (Saw Palm), Coccothrinax(Florida Silver Palm), Acoelorrhaphe (Paurotis Palm), Roystanea (Florida Royal Palm), Sable Palm (Sabal Palmetto), Needle Palm. Coconut palms have been growing wild in the Florida Keys since it was discovered in the 1500's.
Most of those are scrubby little things hardly worth the time of day.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:03 PM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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Most of those are scrubby little things hardly worth the time of day.
Incorrect as well.

Florida thatchpalm, Florida Royal Palms, among others grow to 100 feet tall:

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Old 08-28-2013, 05:04 PM
 
Location: USA East Coast
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[quote=alex985;31175077]What's your point,

Just pointing out what is native and what is not native.

Seems there is alot of confusion about it. I understand you hate palms, but the facts are the facts.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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What's your point,

Just pointing out what is native and what is not native.

Seems there is alot of confusion about it. I understand you hate palms, but the facts are the facts.
I've said many times I don't mind palm trees in FL lol, I don't like where they look out of place or aren't native. And anyways, your response to French_User's post had little to nothing to do about about what he said. You brought up Florida/South Atlantic states for no reason whatsoever, trying to make the southern US look warmer than it is....as usual.
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