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Old 08-27-2013, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Paris
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I hate palm trees in places where snow can fall and last. Here, I hate seeing those annoying little windmill palms in the snow - they ruin the feel of the wintry weather, and they're very hardy so it takes a lot for them to die.
Amen to that. I usually don't mind CIDPs, because they only thrive in very mild places, and even Paris' benign winters are slightly too cool for them. I find them attractive too.


But that trachycarpus thing... I already find them hideous in summer, but when they stand in a wintry landscape, they're really a ghastly, uncalled for sight imo.

They stand here, taunting me. If they could talk, they'd say something in the lines of "Winters here aren't wintry enough to kill us. We'll soon take over. Deal with it. *evil laugh*".





Poor things need help... dying.


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Old 08-27-2013, 04:53 AM
 
Location: Rimini, Emilia-Romagna, Italy (44°0 N)
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Really? That's interesting to see that planting palms is prohibited in countryside areas of Italy
Yes, it depends on regional and municipal laws. Much of the Emilia-Romagna region have recent single municipal green spaces regulations that prohibit planting exotic species outside urban areas: any type of firs, cedars, pines, magnolias, palms, cypresses, and the invasive black locust. Many coniferous trees are really out of place in our area (especially Christmas firs, how ugly they are in the landscape!), even the italian pine. Inside the urban areas more biodiversity is allowed.
I agree with that rules because it's a form of respect of the ecological environment and landscape.
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Old 08-27-2013, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Laurentia
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I find palm trees to be ugly as well. Perhaps us palm-haters should launch a palm tree genocide .
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Old 08-27-2013, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Palm trees are pretty. Not ugly.
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Old 08-27-2013, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Trachycarpus in Copenhagen (link embedded):





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I find palm trees to be ugly as well. Perhaps us palm-haters should launch a palm tree genocide .
Well, I'll happily commit mass palm genocide here. I won't rest until every last palm is dead, and I will make sure the gardens they are from are burnt so the soil becomes infertile and unable to grow anything.
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Old 08-27-2013, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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I don't understand that dislike for Palms of some posters here. It feels like a sort of botanical racism...
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Old 08-27-2013, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Finland
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I don't dislike palm trees per se, but do dislike them if they are out of place. Snow or a cool maritime climate and palm trees don't match, and I don't understand why people insist on planting them in places like Leeds, Brest and Penzance.
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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I don't dislike palm trees per se, but do dislike them if they are out of place. Snow or a cool maritime climate and palm trees don't match, and I don't understand why people insist on planting them in places like Leeds, Brest and Penzance.
There are not much palms planted in Brest actually...

As I said previously, snow can occur all aver the mediterranean sea in winter. As long as the frost do not last much it is OK for them. The winters can be wee and cool there. I do not think they are out of place there.

That also the case in the desertic areas in north Africa were temepratures can go below zero in winter. Those palms are made for that.

As long as those palm trees can develop themselves well means that the climate is ok for them, whatever it fit or not the preconcieved idea we can have of the climate is supposed along the Atlantic...
If there are lots of palms along the Atlantic in Europe it means they match their location.

All palms are not "exotic" or "tropical", some species are originating from warm oceanic climates.
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:31 AM
 
Location: St Paul's Bay, Malta
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I LOVE palm trees & my garden is full of them They are quite commonly planted around where I live too, with CIDP's, Chamaerops humilis & Trachycarpus fortunei being the most common...

I have to say in the wrong climate/location a Trachycarpus can look awful, some people plant them in hot dry places where they look like a furry stick with dead leaves on top, similarly in the UK some planted close to the sea look equally awful...

But there are over 3000 different types of palm, so to generalise & say you hate all palms is a little silly, as they do not all look alike, they can have different shaped/coloured leaves, different growing habits, different types of trunks & some don't trunk at all...

It's a bit like saying you don't like American's after encountering a few loud, brash tourists in London
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Old 08-27-2013, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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My hatred to hot weather does not affect how I view palm trees. I agree they are really beautiful. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...%28Fiji%29.jpg Sadly, palm trees virtually can't grow in climates which I like.
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