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Old 06-12-2016, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Long Island/NYC
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But I thought p. tremuloides was native to NYC
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populus_tremuloides
I didn't know that, I've never seen them in NYC or here.

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Yes, plane trees can be pretty ugly in the fall. I don't like that they start to change color earlier than most trees.
London Planes look sickly by mid-summer, I don't know if it's the heat, or if that's just the way they are, but I don't like it, especially since they're one of the last trees to leaf out in the spring. And I love pines, but Virginia Pines generally look unsightly, I'm not a fan of them.
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Luckily our winters are too cold for platanii. Would hate to see them here.
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trachycarpus_fortunei

Kill it with fire.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:22 PM
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Location: Norwich, UK
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They aren't the greatest, but they can look alright away from the coast.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.41...2!8i6656?hl=en

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.44...2!8i6656?hl=en

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.44...2!8i6656?hl=en

As opposed to these ones, which look a bit scrawny and wind damaged.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.46...8i6656!6m1!1e1

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Old 06-12-2016, 03:25 PM
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Location: Norwich, UK
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London Planes look sickly by mid-summer, I don't know if it's the heat, or if that's just the way they are, but I don't like it, especially since they're one of the last trees to leaf out in the spring.
This year the planes weren't fully leafed out until the first week of May. Some of them have already dropped a few leaves, but many will still be shedding leaves in December. They are quite ugly when not in leaf.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:47 PM
 
Location: St Paul's Bay, Malta
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Well grown Trachycarpus fortunei can look stunning, unfortunately most are grown in the wrong spot...

In a windier spot Trachycarpus wagnerianus is better as it has smaller stiffer leaves, or even the hybrid between the two which has bigger but slightly less stiff leaves...
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Old 06-12-2016, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Paris
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London Planes look sickly by mid-summer, I don't know if it's the heat, or if that's just the way they are, but I don't like it, especially since they're one of the last trees to leaf out in the spring.
I've noticed that too, more so during dry summers. In Paris they look OK most years, but in Toulouse their leaves look parched by August every other year.




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Kill it with fire.
It's a shame really, plant one of these and the property values of the whole street go down the drain. Something has to be done to deter people from planting them, a police of good taste or something. Unfortunately that's what you get when your climate can't support decent looking palms unless you put a lot of effort and money into their cultivation, but is still plenty mild enough for these ugly bastards to thrive. It's a double whammy really.
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Old 06-12-2016, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island/NYC
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This year the planes weren't fully leafed out until the first week of May. Some of them have already dropped a few leaves, but many will still be shedding leaves in December. They are quite ugly when not in leaf.
I think ours were fully leafed by the 2nd week of May, pretty late. And they're not the most attractive tree, however I like their bark. They're grossly over planted in NYC, they're supposed to be great city tree, but i beg to differ.

I hate when they're over pruned this way, it looks disgusting:


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I've noticed that too, more so during dry summers. In Paris they look OK most years, but in Toulouse their leaves look parched by August every other year.
Yes, the leaves are a tan-ish green by August and they continue to die before they turn completely crispy and fall off in November. It doesn't matter how wet or dry summer is, they always end up looking very drought stressed.

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It's a shame really, plant one of these and the property values of the whole street go down the drain. Something has to be done to deter people from planting them, a police of good taste or something. Unfortunately that's what you get when your climate can't support decent looking palms unless you put a lot of effort and money into their cultivation, but is still plenty mild enough for these ugly bastards to thrive. It's a double whammy really.
Lol I never knew they were hated that much. They look their best with their trunk fibers stripped away in my opinion, or at least planted in groups. Standalone specimens can look ghastly.

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Old 06-12-2016, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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I don't think that windmill palms look that bad, sure they are not the best looking palms, but they still look decent even if they are lining the roads.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5135...7i13312!8i6656

I think whats most important is that they look healthy



Another tree that I like which most people think of as merely a bush is the rhododendron.
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Old 06-12-2016, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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They are everywhere and it has to stop. If it doesn't stop soon I'll be obliged to take matters into my own hands. I have already warned my neighbour that if he doesn't dispose of his 2-foot Trachy I'll chop it down myself.
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