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Old 08-11-2016, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Sydney
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It's barely 2 degrees over the past 70 years, the climate is changing but it's changing at the speed of molasses as opposed to the "omg there will palm trees in Alaska by 2020!!!" sort of change you hear about
And where exactly do you hear that?
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Old 08-12-2016, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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It's barely 2 degrees over the past 70 years, the climate is changing but it's changing at the speed of molasses as opposed to the "omg there will palm trees in Alaska by 2020!!!" sort of change you hear about
Pretty much what I said in my post lol
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Old 08-12-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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I don't agree with alarmist projections either, BUT as greenhouse gases continue to build, there is the possibility that temperatures will accelerate. Again, I don't buy climate model scenarios. I am however very interested in paleoclimate.
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Old 08-13-2016, 09:27 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Sorry guys. See the trend for yourselves

New York City
Based on that graph all of the increase occurred between 1930 and 1950.
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Old 08-13-2016, 09:41 PM
 
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Based on that graph all of the increase occurred between 1930 and 1950.
Are you looking at the same graph? The last 30 years have been consistently warmer in NYC
Just look at how many more years have seen an annual mean above 56F since 1980 compared to prior years. Only 3 years from 1875 until 1980, and 12 years since 1980. It's obvious that this 30 year period is by far the warmest.
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Old 08-14-2016, 10:36 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Are you looking at the same graph? The last 30 years have been consistently warmer in NYC
Just look at how many more years have seen an annual mean above 56F since 1980 compared to prior years. Only 3 years from 1875 until 1980, and 12 years since 1980. It's obvious that this 30 year period is by far the warmest.
True but all of the jump occurred before 1950. It's bounced around since then. The period before 1930 was legitimately cooler, though not be much.
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Old 08-14-2016, 11:10 AM
 
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Is the Blob going to make an appearance just in time for winter?



Seems that the anomalous warm water is further west and that there is cold water up welling along the coast. Might see a different winter set up
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Old 08-14-2016, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Is the Blob going to make an appearance just in time for winter?



Seems that the anomalous warm water is further west and that there is cold water up welling along the coast. Might see a different winter set up


I wouldn't be much phased by a colder than avg winter, if it was just consistently cold with no crazy negative anomalies of 25F. If we stayed within 15F of our avg Jan low, I would be ecstatic lol. Unfortunately, looking thru the data that just does not happen here unless the winter is above average.
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Old 08-14-2016, 03:56 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I wouldn't be much phased by a colder than avg winter, if it was just consistently cold with no crazy negative anomalies of 25F. If we stayed within 15F of our avg Jan low, I would be ecstatic lol. Unfortunately, looking thru the data that just does not happen here unless the winter is above average.
I am not surprised that it is easier to get a +25 anomaly during the winter than a -25 anomaly. A +25 anomaly still is within the typical range of temperatures from mid-fall to mid-spring. Much easier than getting to conditions typical of Yellowknife or Fairbanks.
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Old 08-16-2016, 03:31 PM
 
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