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Old 09-12-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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Agreed. We have very similar climate preferences. My biggest complaint with Chicago is that bouts of dry heat are unusual. While I like humid heat, I'd want a more even distribution between humid and dry heat.
That Is true. More common are the 32-33C with 21C+ dew points, however every few years we get droughts in the Midwest which is when we can see 38-40C temps with dew points around 15C, which is what we had last summer. Before that it 2005 was a drought summer. The two benchmark drought summers were 1988 and 1936, both hosted the largest number of 100F/38C days
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Old 09-12-2013, 02:00 PM
 
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Do you prefer the drier heat or are you a sweat box lover? I personally prefer humidity, but with high temps of 27-29. When it's getting towards the mid 30's it's getting very uncomfortable IMO.

I found NYC quite comfortable, although heatwaves may be different. Virginia was a different story though. Temps were 31/32C with dew points around 25C. That was very uncomfortable, especially working outside.
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Old 09-12-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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Chicago, i like very hot and humid summer with thunderstorms and warm heavy short rain on some days.
Very good sunshine hours and 4 seasons, i like Chicago climate.
But the winter in Chicago are terribly cold !
I don't like the long drizzle of oceanic climate (London, Paris...).
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Although not all Oceanic climates have long periods of drizzle.
I think drizzle is more a product of latitude or geography, than climate type.

I don't think anywhere at 50" N/S will see short duration, heavy downpours as typical.
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Old 09-12-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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Midwest can see very high dew point and heat index !

-35°C with 56°C heat index and 31°C dew Point in Newton in 2010 or a lot of days with heat index over 50°C in July 2011 in Knoxville Iowa !

Midwest are more humid than Miami ?
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:13 PM
 
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^^

We spike as high or even higher then Florida, but we in no way have the sustained high level of dew points that they have day after day after day.....


I thought this was interesting. London's benchmark hottest month was July 2006. Here are the average highs at various major stations in the Greater London area.... Heathrow for some reason is the hotspot (anyone know why?). The other stations are within 1.2C of each other and none were more than 2C cooler then Heathrow. In other words pretty uniform across a 40-50 mile radius.




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For Chicago, there are several factors that contribute to temperature variations across the metro area. Proximity to the lake and UHI being the greatest. Perfect case in point was the benchmark heatwave of July 1936. Official records were then taken at the UofC. But look what they hid.





Average max was officially only 29.3C at the UofC. Midway 9 miles inland it was 33.1C, Aurora 35 miles inland hit 35.8C, and within 50 miles of Chicago the average high reached 38.2C. Such extreme variations don't always happen though. It depends on how persistent lake winds are. July 2012, the average max at Midway was 33.4C, and actually it was one of the higher readings across the metro area.


I studied the benchmark heatwave of NYC which was July 2010. I didn't see large variations in temps between various sites, though Newark which is more sheltered from the Atlantic was hottest (1.7C greater than JFK).
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:29 PM
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Gatwick isn't in Greater London, but it's colder because it's elevated, to the south of the North Downs and not in the basin. City Airport is surrounded by water on 3 sides so is cooler than the rest of London.
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I studied the benchmark heatwave of NYC which was July 2010. I didn't see large variations in temps between various sites, though Newark which is more sheltered from the Atlantic was hottest (1.7C greater than JFK).
Newark is generally the hottest site of the region. I'm surprised there wasn't more variation. Sometimes JFK reports much lower temperatures — in this case it was one of the coldest in the northeast!

Summer 2013 Thread — Northern Hemisphere
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:47 PM
 
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Newark is generally the hottest site of the region. I'm surprised there wasn't more variation. Sometimes JFK reports much lower temperatures — in this case it was one of the coldest in the northeast!

Summer 2013 Thread — Northern Hemisphere

I noticed that about Newark.


Hey what happened to the NYC metro map that I posted!?!?



Here it is again


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Old 09-12-2013, 11:00 PM
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I don't think anywhere at 50" N/S will see short duration, heavy downpours as typical.
That is the standard rainfall pattern from March until September/October. In summer drizzle is rare, in winter it is common. Rain only falls about 5% of the time anyway so I wouldn't say London and Paris have 'long spells of drizzle' (as opposed to somewhere like the PNW).
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Old 09-12-2013, 11:36 PM
 
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That is the standard rainfall pattern from March until September/October. In summer drizzle is rare, in winter it is common. Rain only falls about 5% of the time anyway so I wouldn't say London and Paris have 'long spells of drizzle' (as opposed to somewhere like the PNW).
I guess it depends on the definition of heavy downpours. I don't think somewhere like London would have the same frequency or rate of downpours typical in Chicago, although I know they do happen at times. Ben86 posted about a 3 hr/176mm (from memory)downpour that happened in London a few years ago.

My point to Hartfordd, was really that drizzle isn't a feature determined by climate type, but rather latitude or geography. It just happens that many Oceanic climates are in higher latitudes.

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