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Is there a significant difference in the native vegetation between the north and south island lowland areas? What is the difference between say Auckland and Invercargill? Does the forest around Invercargill still have that jungle feel you mentioned?
A zone that ends roughly at 38S, marks the end of the Mangrove. An isolated pocket grows at 41S. but it's unsure if this was spread by people, or not.
A second zone that ends at 43S, marks the end of most tree ferns, pandanus, the palm and some myrtle and podocarp species.
The third zone is the rest.
These are the main distinctions used in NZ. Some species are top to bottom, but still only hardy to -5C, while some northern species are quite hardy. The feel of the bush, is mostly an east/west thing. The most jungle like is the western most parts of this region, from about Greymouth to Farewell Spit. Also what remains of the bush in the Upper North -Coromandel, Great Barrier, Kawhia, the Waitakeres etc, is jungle-ish.
A zone that ends roughly at 38S, marks the end of the Mangrove. An isolated pocket grows at 41S. but it's unsure if this was spread by people, or not.
A second zone that ends at 43S, marks the end of most tree ferns, pandanus, the palm and some myrtle and podocarp species.
The third zone is the rest.
These are the main distinctions used in NZ. Some species are top to bottom, but still only hardy to -5C, while some northern species are quite hardy. The feel of the bush, is mostly an east/west thing. The most jungle like is the western most parts of this region, from about Greymouth to Farewell Spit. Also what remains of the bush in the Upper North -Coromandel, Great Barrier, Kawhia, the Waitakeres etc, is jungle-ish.
Cool very interesting. So how would you describe the forest around Invercargill? Would it be similar to forest in alpine regions further north since it's colder and you said some native species go from top to bottom in NZ?
Whoever honest and serious person seeing this map would deduct that the subtropical biome raises up to Washington D.C. region. And I specify that this map result of official serious organisation.
Map result is of serious what of organisation who? Map just map deduct general of anything. Whoever honest and serious person deduct not.
The map is not right for the west coast. The temperate rain forest extends right into Alaska. It shows only a small band in Washington state and Oregon which is not right.
The map is not right for the west coast. The temperate rain forest extends right into Alaska. It shows only a small band in Washington state and Oregon which is not right.
It also isn't right for the Texas Coast; it has subtropical steppe extending right to the coast, which is wrong.
I put back the map of bioclimatic zone in North America and Central America :
Whoever honest and serious person seeing this map would deduct that the subtropical biome raises up to Washington D.C. region. And I specify that this map result of official serious organisation.
Map is not accurate. Coastal Texas has a steppe subtropical climate ( which includes Houston) and the the humid subtropical climate only extends only up to D.C. when its supposed to be up to Philly and NYC.
and the the humid subtropical climate only extends only up to D.C. when its supposed to be up to Philly and NYC.
who else says that is right expect for koppen? only koppen goes beyond D.C., other renditions do exist and have their own merit.
most people don't even believe NYC is subtropical so that is garbage to say it is like everyone agrees which they don't. most people don't agree with that.
3 months don't count as tropical and Brisbane is still ~370 miles from the nearest tropical climate. not borderline.
would you say Chicago is borderline subtropical?
I can have an opinion too. Otherwise, what's the point of this thread?
A place with 70F+ average highs year round is too warm to be a good example of a subtropical climate, especially with the stability of Brisbane. I didn't say it wasn't, just an odd choice to use as a definition.
Epitome of subtropical climates: Tokyo, Austin, Mobile, Hong Kong.
Brisbane and Tampa are on the warmer side of subtropical but certainly more subtropical than places like Washington D.C or Kansas City (IMO- those are definitely continental).
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Map just map deduct general of anything. Whoever honest and serious person deduct not.
