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Old 10-19-2013, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Western Russia is not affected by oceanic weather either, and there is so cloudy also in late autumn, winter and early spring, so it has to do with the lack of mountain ranges.
Volgograd has around 2250 hours of sun, which is quite comparable with locations on similar latitudes in America.
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Old 10-19-2013, 11:38 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Western Russia is not affected by oceanic weather either, and there is so cloudy also in late autumn, winter and early spring, so it has to do with the lack of mountain ranges.
But then Western Russia isn't really in the European area. I'm sure this poster is considering Western Europe anyway.

And the reason why Western Russia is cloudy is because Europe is smaller than North America and thus locations are much closer to the ocean.
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Old 10-19-2013, 12:21 PM
 
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Atlantic Ocean, Gulf Stream, prevailing westerlies in the mid temperate latitudes and an incomplete north-south high mountain range (like the Rockies/Sierras/Cascades).
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Old 10-19-2013, 01:07 PM
 
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Volgograd has around 2250 hours of sun, which is quite comparable with locations on similar latitudes in America.
It would appear that way if you look at the Canadian Prairies they get 2200 hrs annually. Volgograd is at about the same latitude as the US Canadian border. International Falls is at 48.6N I assume both the Canadian and Russians use(d) the CS equipment (which is inaccurate anyway). But the 2200 hr line extends pretty far north in Central Canada. I wonder how far north do Russian sites get 2200 hrs? Edmonton gets 2345 hours of sunshine and they are at 53.3N. Moscow at 55.7N only gets 1900 hrs. Samara at 53N gets 2100 hrs.


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Old 10-19-2013, 01:14 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Well actually Russia is more continental than Europe. To be honest I would be closer to Newfoundland than the majority of Russia so when comparing Europe with North America it would be better to actually go with Central Europe i.e.Germany.
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Old 10-19-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Niagara Falls, ON
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Medicine Hat, AB averages 2513 hours (WMO standard)
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Old 10-19-2013, 01:27 PM
 
Location: York
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On the flip side, we have higher dew point and humidity levels during the summer at least in my region which allows for convection, and our clouds make big thunderstorms
The islands in the med get dew points similar to and often higher than you during summer. When I was in Palma, the heat and humidity rarely triggered thunderstorms though. They tend to be out at sea, so we'd often be sat in a bar with a cool beer, enjoying the heat and humidity as storms rumble away over the med!
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Old 10-19-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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The islands in the med get dew points similar to and often higher than you during summer.
Yes, but it's a coastal phenomenon, and not widespread where you can't escape it. I've been to multitudes of the Greek islands, as well as Cyprus, and Sicily, you certainly do feel dew point at the sea shore, and especially at night, but all you need to do is move a few hundred meters (literally) away from the shore and the dews drop dramatically.
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When I was in Palma, the heat and humidity rarely triggered thunderstorms though. They tend to be out at sea, so we'd often be sat in a bar with a cool beer, enjoying the heat and humidity as storms rumble away over the med!
I remember seeing some nice t-storms on my home island of Kefallonia (I was born there), but like you said, storms seem to move away from land, and are mostly out over the water.
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Old 10-19-2013, 02:32 PM
 
Location: York
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Yes, but it's a coastal phenomenon, and not widespread where you can't escape it. I've been to multitudes of the Greek islands, as well as Cyprus, and Sicily, you certainly do feel dew point at the sea shore, and especially at night, but all you need to do is move a few hundred meters (literally) away from the shore and the dews drop dramatically.


I remember seeing some nice t-storms on my home island of Kefallonia (I was born there), but like you said, storms seem to move away from land, and are mostly out over the water.
Ahh fair enough. I was based literally 30 yards from the sea so I certainly felt the humidity! During the afternoon the humidity wasn't ever a problem for me, it was just the evenings when the temperature was still high 80's, and the dews were between 70 and 75F.
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Moscow at 55.7N only gets 1900 hrs.
Moscow gets 1731 hours, don't get fooled by that weather box using weatheronline climate robot data from 11 years.

Volgograd is around the northernmost with over 2200 hours. Yakutsk in Siberia gets the 2200 hours at 62N, but that isn't in Europe anymore. The westerly oceanic influence of the winds extend much further east in Europe than in America. January in Minneapolis is colder than in Moscow, despite being a whopping 11 degrees more south.
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