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Old 10-22-2013, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Laurentia
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To TV meteorologists, anything under 80F is fair game to be called "cold" or "chilly", and anything below 35F is eligible to be "bitter cold". But don't forget that 100F is just "warm" . That's actually not a joke - in 2011 some jerk on The Weather Channel described 100F temperatures in the Mid-Atlantic as "warm", and those were record highs. Record lows this time of year in the same region run in the high 20's, but if that happened you would almost never see that described as "cool" or "chilly" - you'd be more likely to hear "bitter, bitter cold" than "cool".

50's for highs is not cold by any fair measure - chilly is more like it considering the time of year. True, it is below normal, but 100F would not be cold if it was normally 130F, nor would -50F be warm if it was normally -80F. You can rave about departures from normal all you want, but the terms "cold" and "hot" connote some sort of absolute standards. Now, the subfreezing morning lows can fairly be considered "cold" since it's an early freeze, but the days fall far short of what most people think of when they think of "cold". Heck, if it's sunny most people wouldn't even need a jacket in the afternoon, even taking into account the lack of acclimatization.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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It's been really nice here in Northern Nevada here at 5100'. High 20's in the morning, and high 60's in the late afternoon with very low humidity. I walk in a t shirt at 9:00 am at 40 and it's comfortable, and an hour later it's 50. As long as the sun is shinning and above 25 it's not really cold.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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To TV meteorologists, anything under 80F is fair game to be called "cold" or "chilly", and anything below 35F is eligible to be "bitter cold". But don't forget that 100F is just "warm" . That's actually not a joke - in 2011 some jerk on The Weather Channel described 100F temperatures in the Mid-Atlantic as "warm", and those were record highs. Record lows this time of year in the same region run in the high 20's, but if that happened you would almost never see that described as "cool" or "chilly" - you'd be more likely to hear "bitter, bitter cold" than "cool".

50's for highs is not cold by any fair measure - chilly is more like it considering the time of year. True, it is below normal, but 100F would not be cold if it was normally 130F, nor would -50F be warm if it was normally -80F. You can rave about departures from normal all you want, but the terms "cold" and "hot" connote some sort of absolute standards. Now, the subfreezing morning lows can fairly be considered "cold" since it's an early freeze, but the days fall far short of what most people think of when they think of "cold". Heck, if it's sunny most people wouldn't even need a jacket in the afternoon, even taking into account the lack of acclimatization.
you obviously don't know people here in south florida. Temperatures have been in the 80s since may here yet some people are still wearing hoodies... I start wearing warmer clothing if temps fall below 22c(even if it's just in the morning) once temps fall below 16c I start wearing jackets and once it's below 10c I go all out winter gear.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:34 PM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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I can't even imagine finding 22c actually cold. Like cold
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:44 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I would be very angry if I were subjected to indoor heat at this time of year. Luckily, my workplace is very cool. It's simply not necessary to use the heat right now. And I completely agree, this is the perfect time of year and the perfect weather for open windows. I love wearing a few extra layers on a nice cold night in an unheated house. When I was a college student and slept in dorm rooms, they'd always have that nasty heat on, even if it was a mild winter day. I woke up many times drenched in sweat. I may use air conditioning more than the average person, but I'm more than willing to offset that by using less heat in the winter.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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Yeah, except people flip out when they hear COLD. So whether that cold is mid-50s or mid-20s, they take COLD as gospel. Like I said, temps in the 50s and out come winter parkas and gloves and all, never mind the commercial properties who crank up the indoor heat as if everyone will freeze to death without it. UGGH. Don't even get me started on SNOW in the DC area. OMG
Sometimes I wonder if you aren't in your 60s with arthritis that most people that want to move to Florida because 50s is "cold" is mostly psychological or something else. Besides very few on here like ColdCanadian who genuinely have a medical condition that makes them feel cold all the time, I think it's mostly a psychological thing. Heat = summer = vacation. Ergo, living in Florida with heat all the time will seem like it's vacation 350 days a year.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:03 PM
 
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you obviously don't know people here in south florida. Temperatures have been in the 80s since may here yet some people are still wearing hoodies... I start wearing warmer clothing if temps fall below 22c(even if it's just in the morning) once temps fall below 16c I start wearing jackets and once it's below 10c I go all out winter gear.
Yeah, but, the weather forecasters are from Atlanta; not southern Florida.
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Old 10-22-2013, 07:07 PM
 
Location: The Northeast - hoping one day the Northwest!
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Coming cold blast: Parts of mid-Atlantic to flirt with first freeze

D.C. weather forecast: Cold weather expected this week

D.C. area forecast: Sunny start to week, but turning sharply colder midweek

The above are just a few of the local headlines in the last couple of days in my area of the country. COLD? Really? Daytime highs between 53-59 °F are COLD??? All this COLD talk is freaking peeps out. The maintenance crew at my office has already cranked the building heat up in the 70s – yuck! – and the women in my office are arriving and departing in their winter parkas and gloves. It’s mid-50s and you’d think it’s the ice age cometh all over again. What are they going to wear to keep warm when it’s in the 30s? Can't think of better temps to leave the house windows open, especially at night, when the air temp drops another 15-20 degrees

Just what do meteorologists/weather announcers/weather bloggers consider COLD? Is there some sort of standard? Mid-50s isn’t it
Cold is all relative. What is cold to some, isn't cold to others. I moved to Tampa, Fl from Vernon, CT 5 1/2 years ago. Those high temps are not cold for CT this time of year, but really cold to Tampa. The average low is 53 in December in Tampa. If that was a high for Tampa - it would be cold!! I was just up north last weekend for a wedding, and my mom was commenting about how perfect the weather was, and I was cold.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:18 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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To me, just 17 degrees and above feels hot. It's not that I have don't enjoy heat, but I really enjoy winter weather. I couldn't imagine what it's like to live in some of those Arabian countries where it gets to 50 degrees in the summer. I would rather have Antarctica-cold winters than summers that hot.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:34 PM
 
Location: HERE
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People claim San Francisco is soooooooooo cold in summer (highs in the 60s F) but people know they mean relatively cold compared to most of the U.S. in summer. Cold is a relative term depending on what the norms and the past weather were. We call it "really cold" here in San Jose when we have low temperatures below freezing and highs around 50 F in January but I know that's not that cold but it's cold for here. In Chicago, it would be a winter heat wave. Likewise, if Chicago had a low of 55 F in July, it would be "cold" but a low of 55 F in July (with highs in the low 80s) is normal here. Cold is a relative term.
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