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Old 05-15-2017, 03:18 AM
B87
 
Location: Surrey/London
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Originally Posted by Baba_Wethu View Post
Apart from a ridiculously cold May it's also been a very cloudy May here too.
At least you've generally seen warmer and sunnier than average temps in the last 10 years. We've seen average temps but catastrophic sunshine totals.

 
Old 05-15-2017, 03:42 AM
 
Location: 64'N Umeå, Sweden - The least bad Dfc
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At least you've generally seen warmer and sunnier than average temps in the last 10 years. We've seen average temps but catastrophic sunshine totals.
Fair point
 
Old 05-15-2017, 09:22 AM
 
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Temperature trends in the Eastern US are predicted to follow trends in the Arctic oscillation first turning warmer this week and then cooler. Europe even more cooler.

 
Old 05-15-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Last night's minimum temperatures across Europe...
 
Old 05-15-2017, 10:51 AM
 
Location: 64'N Umeå, Sweden - The least bad Dfc
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The Bothnian sea is so cold because of the very cold April and May. Look at Holmön's forecast (an island).


Average high in May is 10'C, and record high 20'C (until last year which got 25.4'C and coincidentally this year that got 20.5'C as early as the 5th). I.e standard deviation is very low. To have 10 days of 5'C below average temperatures is insane. And the last 10 days have also averaged about 5-6'C highs. 20 consecutive days of 5-6'C temps in mid-May is bonkers.

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Old 05-15-2017, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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I haven't done a Rovaniemi snow update for a while, still 62 cm on the ground there.

I suspect the low humidity is stopping the snowpack from melting as much as I'd expect, right now it's 4.5C and sunny at 8 pm but the dew point is -10C. Highs of up to 15C are forecast for the weekend, so surely even 62 cm couldn't possibly make it into June, right?

The 105 cm they've got in Kilpisjärvi probably won't even all have gone by midsummer though! Currently 2.4C and sunny there but below -10C this morning, even with only three hours of "night".
 
Old 05-15-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Finland
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I haven't done a Rovaniemi snow update for a while, still 62 cm on the ground there.

I suspect the low humidity is stopping the snowpack from melting as much as I'd expect, right now it's 4.5C and sunny at 8 pm but the dew point is -10C. Highs of up to 15C are forecast for the weekend, so surely even 62 cm couldn't possibly make it into June, right?

The 105 cm they've got in Kilpisjärvi probably won't even all have gone by midsummer though! Currently 2.4C and sunny there but below -10C this morning, even with only three hours of "night".
Yeah, quite crazy.

Kilpisjärvi having some snow in midsummer is not totally unheard of, but surely rare. Funny that Turku lost its "permanent" snow pack on 17 March.

But once the melting gets underway, it melts very fast.

Last year Rovaniemi was warmer than Turku has been this May: Synop report summary

FMI is much more optimistic with the highs than WO:

 
Old 05-15-2017, 12:31 PM
 
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https://twitter.com/wunderground/sta...86134196240384
 
Old 05-15-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Ipswich,England
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2013/14 were notably good summers here, the last two have been slightly below average. Last year was particularly bad in terms of cloud in June/July, the only notable day was the 33C in August.
I think Heathrow is giving back the sun it should never have had in the first place .

watch the average drop to a more realitic 1550 in the coming years
 
Old 05-15-2017, 12:37 PM
 
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I think Heathrow is giving back the sun it should never have had in the first place .

watch the average drop to a more realitic 1550 in the coming years
You just keep casting that bait out for B87


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