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Old 06-29-2016, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Helsinki has currently a 0.5C higher average high so far in June than in May. Rare to see such a close call.

I think the sunshine has been quite close to the average this month.

 
Old 06-29-2016, 09:30 AM
 
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Why I'm glad I don't live in an oceanic climate. I need my warm summers and cold winters


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Old 06-29-2016, 10:14 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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We are going to be massively overdue a hot summer in 2017! I'd happily have the entire US and Eastern Europe have no summer at all for Western Europe to be 5c above average.
 
Old 06-29-2016, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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We are going to be massively overdue a hot summer in 2017! I'd happily have the entire US and Eastern Europe have no summer at all for Western Europe to be 5c above average.
hold your horses lol, have you ever been 5c above average in summer? Second what do we have to do with this? Like I said summer arrives here every year! My coldest summer would still be record breaking hot in London. Also what did we do to you, your beef is with eastern Europe not us! what you need is that cold water in the north atlantic to warm and the ao/nao to stop being negative every summer. That is all. Also the cold water weakened the azores high.
 
Old 06-29-2016, 10:34 AM
 
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We are going to be massively overdue a hot summer in 2017! I'd happily have the entire US and Eastern Europe have no summer at all for Western Europe to be 5c above average.
Umm check out where the coolest anomalies have been the last 3 July's in the US.. I'm due for a hot one. Analog years on the right


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Old 06-29-2016, 10:35 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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We've never been 5c above average in summer, but it is deserved when the last 10 years has consisted of summer after summer of cold and cloudy crap, even the 60s had sunnier summers! Year after year, northern France and the Benelux get repeated heatwaves, even though their summers are cooler than ours, and we struggle to even reach average temps. In July 2007 only 1 day made it to average! The forecast for the first half of July has maybe one day of average as well.

Eastern Europe and Seattle need to have some normal or cold summers. We need some normal or hot summers.

It's almost July and our highest temp is 26.8c, with only 3 days above 25c!
 
Old 06-29-2016, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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We've never been 5c above average in summer, but it is deserved when the last 10 years has consisted of summer after summer of cold and cloudy crap, even the 60s had sunnier summers!

Eastern Europe and Seattle need to have some normal or cold summers. We need some normal or hot summers.

It's almost July and our highest temp is 26.8c, with only 3 days above 25c!

Please oh please let that happen. PNW need a cool rainy summer followed a very cold winter with a huge trough over them all winter and a ridge over us from Dec to March. I would love it. Join me in praying to the druid gods that this happens and I will do all I can to get you a hot summer.
 
Old 06-29-2016, 10:44 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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It seems like Seattle is always warmer than us in summer, even though our means are higher in June, and identical in July.

Wonder how they would cope with some summers of crappy 21c highs, which they are well overdue.
 
Old 06-29-2016, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Seattle area
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Please oh please let that happen. PNW need a cool rainy summer followed a very cold winter with a huge trough over them all winter and a ridge over us from Dec to March. I would love it. Join me in praying to the druid gods that this happens and I will do all I can to get you a hot summer.
Cannot happen. The worst that can happen is 2 weeks of cold and snowy weather some time in the winter followed by normal winter weather. Summers are usually drier that Phoenix and if we get large amounts of rain, it's usually downpour received in 2 or 3 days.
 
Old 06-29-2016, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Seattle area
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It seems like Seattle is always warmer than us in summer, even though our means are higher in June, and identical in July.

Wonder how they would cope with some summers of crappy 21c highs, which they are well overdue.
Here are the average highs and the precipitation amounts from 2000 to 2015. There is not a single July or August with an average of 21C and even most Septembers and Junes have a higher than 21C average. I told you our summers are nothing like yours. They are more reliable and that's normal. We are not on an island. Conversely, winters are more reliable in London than here.





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