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Old 09-08-2014, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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2100 ft ain't much, and most of the non-mountainous regions of AB and SK are in the 1000 to 2000 ft range. It's still unusual (but not unheard of) this early in the year.

More impressive were the August 22, 1992 snowfalls all over Alberta (with a hard freeze of -5 degrees C in some low-elevation areas) and the August 2, 2002 snowfall in 1800-ft Red Deer. August 2 is just a week after the statistically warmest day of the year.
I guess it's the difference between Oceanic and Continental climates. 2100 ft is considered quite high here, and snowfall at that altitude in the lower South Island in early March, wouldn't be too unusual.

1992 saw plenty of summer snow here as well. Late February saw around 3 ft of snow down to about 3300 ft, and that was at 42"S. Also saw windscreen frost a number of times that same summer, although we were living at nearly 1500 ft that summer.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Brown grass in September????

http://trafficcam.calgary.ca/loc53.jpg

Don't they grow cool season grasses there? Cool season grass stays green even with temps below freezing.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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I guess it's the difference between Oceanic and Continental climates. 2100 ft is considered quite high here, and snowfall at that altitude in the lower South Island in early March, wouldn't be too unusual.

1992 saw plenty of summer snow here as well. Late February saw around 3 ft of snow down to about 3300 ft, and that was at 42"S. Also saw windscreen frost a number of times that same summer, although we were living at nearly 1500 ft that summer.
This plus it's happening in major cities and not just some hut in the woods.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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This plus it's happening in major cities and not just some hut in the woods.
Spirit River doesn't look like a major metropolis to me.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Spirit River doesn't look like a major metropolis to me.
Calgary is though.. kind of.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:21 PM
 
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Calgary is though.. kind of.
Yeah I guess, although Calgary is even higher at 3500 ft - think how much snow London would get at that altitude, as it's the same latitude as Calgary.

Just seems a bit odd Canadians getting all gobsmacked about summer snow at 3500 ft -even allowing for different climate types.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Yeah, but at 3500 ft in Canada, there are people. 1000ft in the UK is colder than Calgary, but nobody lives there.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Truly amazing, I have to say. My country spans up to 70N and we haven't seen a single snowfall yet. Higher grounds around 2000-3000 ft in the north have seen a freeze, but no snow. Down here at 60N the lows have been around 50F.
On that note ... keep an eye on the "tilt"

No, I wasn't trying to draw the Vortex like the Sun. LOL

Basically we all know there's only 1 Vortex in Northern Hemisphere. It sits near the Pole and pieces break off of it. That's the spikes I drew. Then as the Earth turns the spikes rotate around inside the troughs.

It's nearly impossible to shift the entire tilt in one day, one week, & even 1 month. It takes time!

So .......

Here's look at the 850mb temps for Friday.

Not only does it look pretty interestingly cold over wide area but notice the tilt? North America to Asia.

It’s still only September but this will be interesting to see if it remains like that but a more interestingly note... Keep an eye on snow growth now in North America.

That's just an impressive Polar AirMass over Canada for this time of year.



If the AO tanks, NAO goes negative and Stratosphere warms up, heads up North America. Add a sleepy sun that = interesting times.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:38 PM
 
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Don't they grow cool season grasses there? Cool season grass stays green even with temps below freezing.
It was a fairly dry summer in Calgary, so drought played a bigger role than temperature.
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Old 09-08-2014, 12:42 PM
 
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Yeah I guess, although Calgary is even higher at 3500 ft - think how much snow London would get at that altitude, as it's the same latitude as Calgary.

Just seems a bit odd Canadians getting all gobsmacked about summer snow at 3500 ft -even allowing for different climate types.
Another important difference is that this tends to be a fairly dry area, so Arctic fronts at this time of the year would be expected to bring frosts and freezes rather than accumulating snowfall (which will be followed by some severe frosts anyway - GFS is calling for negative double digit lows in parts of the Rockies on Thursday morning).
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