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View Poll Results: Which climate would you prefer to spend a summer WITHOUT AC in?
Woodland Hills, CA (L.A's hottest summer microclimate) 28 82.35%
Washington D.C. 6 17.65%
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:47 PM
 
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If you were required to spend a summer WITHOUT AC in the house in one of these two climates, which would you pick?

A) L.A's hottest summer microclimate- Woodland Hills
Woodland Hills, Los Angeles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

or

B) Washington D.C.

Washington, D.C. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Woodland Hills has MUCH higher average temperatures and record highs but the nights cool down enough to actually feel cold if you're outside after midnight or before 7AM. When it's hot, the humidity is often less than 20 percent so the heat index feels lower and you can cool off more easily. An open window is enough to sleep comfortably most nights except for during heat waves.

Washington D.C. has warm, humid nights and will probably have a higher heat index on most days even though the actual average summer highs and monthly records temperatures have nothing on Woodland Hills.

Personally, I think dry heat and cool nights (with windows open) are easier to deal without AC so I pick Woodland Hills as more comfortable. If I could have AC in the house, I'd pick D.C's summers because I like warm rain and thunderstorms over the total dryness of L.A.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Montréal & New York area
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Woodland Hills for lower humidity and cooler evenings
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:15 PM
 
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Actually, the data for Woodland Hills, is from Canoga Park, a cooler neighborhood, not by much but indeed it is (2-3 degrees warmer in the day in summer).

so based off temps of hottest average monthly high...

Washington DC in July - 88 F
Woodland Hills in August - 100 F
Canoga Park in August - 97 F

Washington DC would seem like the best option for heat haters.

taking into account humidity (im guessing DC averages a dewpoint of 72 F in July, correct me if im wrong, and Woodland Hills and Canoga Park see 50 F dewpoint)...

Washington DC - 95 F heat index
Woodland Hills - 97 F heat index
Canoga Park - 94 F heat index

so its really the same thing, it all comes down to your preference of humid vs dry heat. i like both, but prefer LA's.

are you sticking to just city proper though (i think you are)? if you mean Los Angeles, as in Los Angeles area I prefer Sun City (Riverside Suburb) mid July to mid August at 101 F average high.
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by L.A.-Mex View Post
Actually, the data for Woodland Hills, is from Canoga Park, a cooler neighborhood, not by much but indeed it is (2-3 degrees warmer in the day in summer).

so based off temps of hottest average monthly high...

Washington DC in July - 88 F
Woodland Hills in August - 100 F
Canoga Park in August - 97 F

Washington DC would seem like the best option for heat haters.

taking into account humidity (im guessing DC averages a dewpoint of 72 F in July, correct me if im wrong, and Woodland Hills and Canoga Park see 50 F dewpoint)...

Washington DC - 95 F heat index
Woodland Hills - 97 F heat index
Canoga Park - 94 F heat index

so its really the same thing, it all comes down to your preference of humid vs dry heat. i like both, but prefer LA's.

are you sticking to just city proper though (i think you are)? if you mean Los Angeles, as in Los Angeles area I prefer Sun City (Riverside Suburb) mid July to mid August at 101 F average high.
I'm sticking to L.A. proper for the purpose of this thread. What about the fact that Woodland hills average nighttime lows in the 50s in summer? That's downright COLD by summer standards if you're a heat lover .
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:20 PM
 
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Nights would be much more "uncomfortable" in DC with no AC that Woodlands.
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:26 PM
 
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I'm sticking to L.A. proper for the purpose of this thread. What about the fact that Woodland hills average nighttime lows in the 50s in summer? That's downright COLD by summer standards if you're a heat lover .
i really doubt they are in the 50s, you can look at the data for van nuys airport and canoga park and im 90% sure average lows in july-september arent below 60 F.

and yes that is cold by summer standards
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Munich, Germany
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Originally Posted by L.A.-Mex View Post
Actually, the data for Woodland Hills, is from Canoga Park, a cooler neighborhood, not by much but indeed it is (2-3 degrees warmer in the day in summer).

so based off temps of hottest average monthly high...

Washington DC in July - 88 F
Woodland Hills in August - 100 F
Canoga Park in August - 97 F

Washington DC would seem like the best option for heat haters.

taking into account humidity (im guessing DC averages a dewpoint of 72 F in July, correct me if im wrong, and Woodland Hills and Canoga Park see 50 F dewpoint)...

Washington DC - 95 F heat index
Woodland Hills - 97 F heat index
Canoga Park - 94 F heat index

so its really the same thing, it all comes down to your preference of humid vs dry heat. i like both, but prefer LA's.

are you sticking to just city proper though (i think you are)? if you mean Los Angeles, as in Los Angeles area I prefer Sun City (Riverside Suburb) mid July to mid August at 101 F average high.
Do you have a source for the Woodland hills normals which average 100°F in the warmest month?
Can you give me a link?

I looked here 1981-2010 Normals | Data Tools | Climate Data Online (CDO) | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)
and i found normals for Woodland hills pierce college, CA US which top out at 97.1°F in August.
I also looked here Southern California for Woodland Hills
which led me to here WOODLAND HLS PIERCE CL, CALIFORNIA - Climate Summary
Pierce College where the weather station is situated, seems to be closer to Woodland Hills than to Canoga park.
The address also says that it is situated in Woodland Hills.
6201 Winnetka Avenue, Woodland Hills, CA 91371

Edit: I said that there is no place in LA which averages 71°F in Winter. I was wrong.
Montebello http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?ca5790

Last edited by Guajara; 12-17-2014 at 01:50 AM..
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:12 AM
 
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As an East Coast person I can tell you I'm used to humidity but at the same time loathe it. I'd rather deal with dry heat w/no A/C if I had the chance. Woodland Hills it is
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:12 AM
 
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I've never had A/C in my life and I haven't been to both of those places. I'd say DC is very slightly warmer than here with higher dewpoints in July/August, and I have no problem living here in the summer, I'm used to living in an apartment with 28-30c indoors in the summer, and that was already the case when I lived in Lyon during heatwaves because of big windows that let all the sunshine enter those old buildings.

That said, I would probably feel a bit more comfortable in a dry heat, as it would probably more similar to the mediterranean climates I know, so I'd probably choose Woodland Hills in that case.
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Old 12-17-2014, 04:27 AM
 
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Woodland has more comfortable mornings. It also mean more easy to cool off the room. Washington DC summers are like our place, humid, so even with 60f-set AC, it hardly goes below 75. (given the daily mean in july is 80 so un-AC-ed place will be around that temp, even higher in evenings)
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