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Old 12-17-2014, 09:21 PM
 
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Look at all the vegetation that grows in tropical climates and subtropical climates that don't get a "winter" of subfreezing temperatures.

Look how how NO vegetation can grow in any climate that has subfreezing averages year round and how very little vegetation grows in tundra climates that only have a brief "summer" above freezing and barely so. Look how Antarctica has no natural wildlife whatsoever.

Look how "four seasons" climates depend on their SUMMERS to grow their vegetation and for trees to bare fruits. Their winter is always their dormant season where everything goes in hibernation or dormant.

Life in abundance can thrive without a "winter" but cannot without a "summer". Warm or at least mild temperatures are desired for a significant portion (at least one season) of the year in order for a self sustaining climate.

Heat > Cold
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:01 PM
 
Location: MD
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Look how how NO vegetation can grow in any climate that has subfreezing averages year round and how very little vegetation grows in tundra climates that only have a brief "summer" above freezing and barely so. Look how Antarctica has no natural wildlife whatsoever.
Coastal Antarctica has plenty of wildlife (i.e, seals, penguins, many other species of birds, etc). The interior doesn't, although a few cold-hardy birds need to fly over it occasionally.

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Life in abundance can thrive without a "winter" but cannot without a "summer". Warm or at least mild temperatures are desired for a significant portion (at least one season) of the year in order for a self sustaining climate.
I agree with this statement. Indeed, a very small fraction of the human population lives north of 60 N or south of 60 S, because all of the things necessary for human survival cannot easily be found there due to the cold climate.

However, this doesn't make hot temps inherently better than cold ones (as the title of the thread states). That's a matter of opinion and personal preference. Personally, I think that cold/snowy weather is better simply because I enjoy the refreshing feeling of cold air. The colder, the better imo.

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Old 12-18-2014, 01:04 AM
 
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Look at all the vegetation that grows in tropical climates and subtropical climates that don't get a "winter" of subfreezing temperatures.

Look how how NO vegetation can grow in any climate that has subfreezing averages year round and how very little vegetation grows in tundra climates that only have a brief "summer" above freezing and barely so. Look how Antarctica has no natural wildlife whatsoever.

Look how "four seasons" climates depend on their SUMMERS to grow their vegetation and for trees to bare fruits. Their winter is always their dormant season where everything goes in hibernation or dormant.

Life in abundance can thrive without a "winter" but cannot without a "summer". Warm or at least mild temperatures are desired for a significant portion (at least one season) of the year in order for a self sustaining climate.

Heat > Cold
Couldn't have said it better myself and that's why my goal is to live permanently in a tropical climate one day...
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Old 12-18-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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I agree, If it weren't for our international shipping/distribution network, after apples and pumpkins in the fall there would be no produce in the winter until after April. The Swiss invented fondue as a dish they served in the winter when they got snowed in for months. They could use the stale bread, wine, and cheese they had. All the other things would be used up or spoiled by then. The average life span was much less then also, because of diet.

Hot climates have their own special challenges, with storage being the main one solved by refrigeration. Hot and dry climates have the additional needs of water which is sparse in those climates and that is always a challenge, arguably a harder challenge than getting fresh produce to northern regions during winter.
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:11 AM
 
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I agree with this statement. Indeed, a very small fraction of the human population lives north of 60 N or south of 60 S, because all of the things necessary for human survival cannot easily be found there due to the cold climate.
Poor me.

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I agree, If it weren't for our international shipping/distribution network, after apples and pumpkins in the fall there would be no produce in the winter until after April. The Swiss invented fondue as a dish they served in the winter when they got snowed in for months. They could use the stale bread, wine, and cheese they had. All the other things would be used up or spoiled by then. The average life span was much less then also, because of diet.
Why can't you bake fresh bread and make fresh cheese during the winter?

People here dried the apples for the winter. Honey was abundant also in winter.
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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Poor me.



Why can't you bake fresh bread and make fresh cheese during the winter?

People here dried the apples for the winter. Honey was abundant also in winter.

Cheese needs to be made in caves above freezing temps. But yes if you have flour you can make bread. But they needed to do something with the stale bread because of the cold dry conditions in their heated house.
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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Cheese needs to be made in caves above freezing temps. But yes if you have flour you can make bread. But they needed to do something with the stale bread because of the cold dry conditions in their heated house.
Ok, so you meant like stone-age people? I meant more like medieval times.
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:03 PM
 
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Poor me.
I think you meant to say, "Lucky me!"
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Who cares about vegetation. All I want is to be comfortable all year round.

Oh, if heat supported vegetation then the Sahara would be a lush rainforest.
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Old 12-19-2014, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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But cold kills bugs. Also, the slower vegetation growth helps keep people from always worrying about their property being overtaken by plants.
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