Wich place is more subtropical : Atlanta or Rome ? (recorded, rainfall, day)
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Rome has higher record lows in winter than Atlanta not to mention Rome has higher mean temperatures.
Also another name for Mediterranean is dry summer subtropical.
No, Atlanta has a higher mean than Rome and much more higher record high in all winter months not to mention the possibility to get in the 70's some days while a 70 °F in Rome during the winter is an exeptionnal temperature...
A tropical climate is a climate in the tropical region. In the Köppen climate classification it is a non-arid climate in which all twelve months have mean temperatures of at least 18 °C (64 °F).
Totally agree, for example if you compare Houston and Valetta, you will see that Houston can get colder minimal temperatures but the fact of the quite higher yearly average, the tropical atmosphere, the total tropical summer conditions, the subtropical vegetation... give totally the edge for Houston.
Justification ?
It's all evident in the vegetation. Rome looks more subtopical than Atlanta. Simple as that.
Rome has higher record lows in winter than Atlanta not to mention Rome has higher mean temperatures.
Barely only by 0.4C. What about all the other seasons (especially in the spring) where Atlanta is significantly warmer and "feels" more subtropical?
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Also another name for Mediterranean is dry summer subtropical.
According to Koppen
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Dry-summer or Mediterranean climates (Csa/Csb)
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Examples:
Beirut, Lebanon (Csa)
Los Angeles, United States (Csa)
Khorramabad, Iran (Csa)
Rome, Italy (Csa)
Perth, Western Australia, Australia (Csa)[7]
Seville, Spain (Csa)
Essaouira, Morocco (Csb)
Porto, Portugal (Csb)
San Francisco, United States (Csb)
Cape Town, South Africa (Csb)
Seattle, United States (Csb)
and
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Warm Temperate climates (Cfa, Cwa):
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Bengbu, Anhui, China (Cwa)
Hong Kong (Cwa)
Hanoi, Vietnam (Cwa)
Rasht, Gilan, Iran (Cfa)
Jacksonville, Florida, United States (Cfa)
Houston, Texas, United States (Cfa)
Washington D.C., United States (Cfa)
Atlanta, Georgia, United States (Cfa)
São Paulo, Brazil (Cfa)[8]
Atlanta is more subtropical than Rome, no contest. Just a simple comparison between the natural vegetation and animals between both places would allow the common man to figure that out, all without the need of any over reliance on data.
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What tropical climate would see a summer month like this? Unless you include the deserts like Oman & Djibouti.
Any subtropical/tropical location undergoing the worst drought in its history from abnormally strong high pressure systems would see a month like that. Such dry conditions occurred in Houston/Texas during 2011(as you've shown), and in much of the Southeast during 2007, to the point that Lake Lanier near Atlanta dried up (and coincidentally, during that year, Houston was swamped with rain). Even tropical rain-forests like the Amazon can see such droughts if the rains fail to arrive.
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Technically May is their dry season and not summer.
Well regardless, Texas is not what I think of when it comes to true tropical summer weather, too susceptible to that dry high pressure.
Southeast Texas, where Houston is, along with Eastern Texas, definitely experience true tropical summer weather, no doubts about it; It would be moronic to use the records of one month during the worst drought on record to dispute such facts.
Any subtropical/tropical location undergoing the worst drought in its history from abnormally strong high pressure systems would see a month like that.
Of course they would. For example the times when Tampa, Miami, Singapore, and Hong Kong hit 109F. Oh wait...
Yes, which is why I think Kpppen is a great system. It makes sense that NYC is classed the same as somewhere like Houston.even if the end result is quite different.
The term subtropical exists outside of climate classification, and I use it primarily to describe ecology. . Cfa is a better name for the climate type, as the term subtropical tends to carry a lot of preconceived ideas, and assumptions.
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