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Yeah i guess people also acclimatize. Whenever I go to northern France or Belgium in the summer, or when I go to the Alps at 1500 m asl, people do not seem to wear that much more clothing than we do. Rather, they're more comfortable than us with light clothing since it's less hot and humid overall. Of course someone who is used to 35c everyday will find summer days under 23c cool at first, but then again summers in the PNW or northern europe are generally pleasant and rarely require substantial clothing. It's not like Iceland or something.
Total jacket weather. Our summer nights drop down to an ultimate low of 68-70F with humidity or higher dewpoints. Feels much warmer. I was in Palm Springs in Nov and felt what your summer nights would feel like. I was in Arcata CA one year in Sept and I felt these supposed warm summer nights. They ain't warm by our summer night standards by a long shot.
Oh yeah it's much cooler and pleasant here at night during the summer than the east coast. At the coast even more so. It's like ~10f cooler than inland and quite windy. I moved here from the east coast (lived in CT, NYC, NJ). It''s pretty miserable there at night during the summer without an AC IMO. Not so much the temps as it is the humidity though really. Here at night I just open the windows and I'm good.
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I don't think anyone in the Pacific Northwest or west coast wears a "jacket" at all in the summer. You're more likely to see people in light hooded sweaters in the evening and at night. Or they just adjust to the cooler temps and don't feel uncomfortable in the 60s and 50s (as is the case with me - I hate wearing extra layers unless it's under the 50s).
I don't even own a proper "winter" jacket since moving here. I see no real need. I have a zip up fleece and a raincoat that I use and it works perfectly fine. It rarely drops below freezing here.
Location: Segovia, central Spain, 1230 m asl, Csb Mediterranean with strong continental influence, 40º43 N
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I think that southwestern Spain and Portugal and most of Morocco are pretty equivalent to California, including the deserts obviously
I don't think so. Even southernmost Portugal and Spain and northernmost Morocco have slightly shorter dry seasons than California. Our summer nights are warmer as well, even in the southwestern coast.
Further ahead south around Rabat then it's pretty equivalent to California.
the low in Seattle is 15F lower than our nights in summer. Cold.
Do your beaches look like this in summer with that water you have and those cold nights. Here and at the beaches you need nothing at night but a t shirt and shorts.
When I went to the beach (cannon beach)here on a hot summer day it was practically empty. There were people but most were just there for scenery taking pictures and such. Some people flying kites and a couple kids swimming but that was it. The water was super cold and it was very windy. Sand was always blowing around which got annoying when you are eating. Also the coast is much cooler than inland. When we got there I didn’t even want to go in the water anymore as it wasn’t even hot/warm on the coast. Beach culture does not exist here like the east coast and I can see why. Everyone goes to local lakes which are much warmer.
fluffy - temperature wise it is similar to somewhere like Le Mans in France - the rain is a little higher where you are though ,you may be slightly sunnier through the summer
Well that isn’t shocking. Summers here are nothing but blue skies and sun
the low in Seattle is 15F lower than our nights in summer. Cold.
Do your beaches look like this in summer with that water you have and those cold nights. Here and at the beaches you need nothing at night but a t shirt and shorts.
I am a native Southern Californian who spent 10 weeks last summer in New Orleans, and I much prefer the warm nights in New Orleans, and the 85 degree waters of the Gulf in Biloxi! Even as far south in California as San Diego, summer water temperatures are, at most, 70-72 degrees.
And yes, in Southern California, a 100 degree day can turn chilly, fast. By 7 or 8pm, it'll be in the low 60s, with a breeze, so definitely need a jacket. Summer rain in Southern California is very rare so when the temps rise above 100, it is pure misery, with no hope of any rain cooling you off. Although, believe it or not (I assume you're from Atlanta, are you?) occasionally Southern California has 95 degree temps with 72 degree dewpoints--humidity that is comparable Atlanta, although still very dry compared to New Orleans. These higher dewpoints also means that the nights are 10 degrees warmer than normal and actually become reasonably warm, though not as warm as New Orleans.
Why everyone gripes about humidity is a mystery to me. It keeps the nights very warm and pleasant for a sunrise walk.
This global image shows that only the mountainous areas in Turkey approximate colder areas, but the areas where people live are warmer.
Or, just google "... average temperature" and open the Graphs tab. There you'll see an average graph. For instance, Northern Germany (Hamburg) is similar to Vermont or New Hampshire.
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