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Old 06-15-2015, 12:07 PM
 
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Look at the temperatures, plus the amount of cloud and rainfall of pretty much every summer between 2007-2012. They are all worse than average.
I'm looking at the 10 year period which is very slightly warmer than the 1981-2010 base period

Since 2005 both June and July are above the 30 year normals, by about 0.5-0.6C, which completely offsets the negative anomalies for August. The 10 year summer average max is 22.7C at Heathrow. The 30 year normal summer max is 22.6C

For us we have remained almost exactly to the 30 year average for each month. Actually each month is about 3/10ths of a degree Fahrenheit above the 30 year base period. The average summer max since 2005 at MDW is 28.3C. The 30 year base period is 28.2C

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Old 06-15-2015, 12:15 PM
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Over the past 10 years, the summer average has been 22.7c as opposed to the long term average of 22.6c, but almost every summer month between 2007-2012 was much cloudier than average. August 2008 and 2011 were the dullest on record, June 2012 was the dullest on record, July 2010 wasn't far off.
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:20 PM
 
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Everything has to be consistent. For example, someone from LA could use downtown data for their high temperatures in the summer because they are the warmest, but use the low temperatures for their airport because they are the warmest. Guess what, it doesn't work that way.
Except for the advocates of global warming who use that kind of logic all the time.
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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Over the past 10 years, the summer average has been 22.7c as opposed to the long term average of 22.6c, but almost every summer month between 2007-2012 was much cloudier than average. August 2008 and 2011 were the dullest on record, June 2012 was the dullest on record, July 2010 wasn't far off.
But it appears the cloudiness wasn't enough to lower the avg daily max temp if over the 10 years it actually went up (temps). Wouldn't cloudiness also raise the min temps?
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:37 PM
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But it appears the cloudiness wasn't enough to lower the avg daily max temp if over the 10 years it actually went up (temps). Wouldn't cloudiness also raise the min temps?
It's only anywhere near the average because of July 2006 (28.2c) and July 2013 (27.0c), both of which recorded over 300 hours of sun. Every summer month between 2007-2012, with the exception of June 2010, was a disaster as far as sunshine goes.
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:39 PM
 
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2010 had a warm July, but still very cloudy. 2006 obviously brought up the July and June average a lot, 2005 was a decent summer too, and so were the Julys of 2013 and 2014.

The stats for 2007-2012 would not be very nice to look at at all IMO. In the past 10 years June hasn't been too bad, but August has really been terrible consistently. July was poor every month for 2007-2012
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:44 PM
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Here are the sunshine stats for Heathrow for the 07-12 summers. They are diabolical.

2007: 139.7 / 159.9 / 192.6
2008: 201.9 / 172.5 / 104.3
2009: 192.8 / 155.8 / 167.6
2010: 220.1 / 161.8 / 110.9
2011: 173.5 / 173.6 / 144.1
2012: 118.5 / 161.6 / 182.6

June 2012 easily smashed the record for the dullest June, August 2008 smashed the record, which was then almost broken by 2010 just 2 years later. Only one month with (slightly) above average sunshine, and that was June 2010.

When you match them up with the average highs for those summers, you understand why everyone hates those years so much.

2007: 21.2c / 21.4c / 21.5c
2008: 20.8c / 22.8c / 21.5c
2009: 22.4c / 23.0c / 23.9c
2010: 23.5c / 25.0c / 21.6c
2011: 20.7c / 21.7c / 21.8c
2012: 19.4c / 21.3c / 23.5c
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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Here are the sunshine stats for Heathrow for the 07-12 summers. They are diabolical.

2007: 139.7 / 159.9 / 192.6
2008: 201.9 / 172.5 / 104.3
2009: 192.8 / 155.8 / 167.6
2010: 220.1 / 161.8 / 110.9
2011: 173.5 / 173.6 / 144.1
2012: 118.5 / 161.6 / 182.6

June 2012 easily smashed the record for the dullest June, August 2008 smashed the record, which was then almost broken by 2011 just 3 years later.

Only one month with (slightly) above average sunshine, and that was June 2010.
Ouch, August 2008 and 2010, June 2012 are seriously extremely poor That is truly diabolical.. imagine if we had the same anomalies but positive?
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:57 PM
 
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Here are the sunshine stats for Heathrow for the 07-12 summers. They are diabolical.

2007: 139.7 / 159.9 / 192.6
2008: 201.9 / 172.5 / 104.3
2009: 192.8 / 155.8 / 167.6
2010: 220.1 / 161.8 / 110.9
2011: 173.5 / 173.6 / 144.1
2012: 118.5 / 161.6 / 182.6

June 2012 easily smashed the record for the dullest June, August 2008 smashed the record, which was then almost broken by 2010 just 2 years later. Only one month with (slightly) above average sunshine, and that was June 2010.

When you match them up with the average highs for those summers, you understand why everyone hates those years so much.

2007: 21.2c / 21.4c / 21.5c
2008: 20.8c / 22.8c / 21.5c
2009: 22.4c / 23.0c / 23.9c
2010: 23.5c / 25.0c / 21.6c
2011: 20.7c / 21.7c / 21.8c
2012: 19.4c / 21.3c / 23.5c

But don't you think in the long scheme of things this is how climate plays out. You tend to get cycles with good back to back years then a stretch of bad. Since 2010, 4 out of 6 winters in the Southeast have been below avg. I think here as well. Then of course the coldest Feb on record in many places just this year.

You will probably get another string of good years, and no one knows what July or August have in store. Maybe above avg for London.
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Old 06-15-2015, 01:16 PM
 
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Here are the sunshine stats for Heathrow for the 07-12 summers. They are diabolical.

2007: 139.7 / 159.9 / 192.6
2008: 201.9 / 172.5 / 104.3
2009: 192.8 / 155.8 / 167.6
2010: 220.1 / 161.8 / 110.9
2011: 173.5 / 173.6 / 144.1
2012: 118.5 / 161.6 / 182.6

June 2012 easily smashed the record for the dullest June, August 2008 smashed the record, which was then almost broken by 2010 just 2 years later. Only one month with (slightly) above average sunshine, and that was June 2010.

When you match them up with the average highs for those summers, you understand why everyone hates those years so much.

2007: 21.2c / 21.4c / 21.5c
2008: 20.8c / 22.8c / 21.5c
2009: 22.4c / 23.0c / 23.9c
2010: 23.5c / 25.0c / 21.6c
2011: 20.7c / 21.7c / 21.8c
2012: 19.4c / 21.3c / 23.5c
Those Sun hours are hilarious. There's no wonder the rest of the world portrays London as a Sunless gloom fest.

If I were you, I'd be going back to Brisbane.
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