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View Poll Results: When do you think La Nina will happen?
Spring 2016 3 4.84%
Summer 2016 16 25.81%
Fall 2016 23 37.10%
Winter 2016-17 11 17.74%
After Feb 2017 9 14.52%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-01-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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Do you think PDO will remain positive and the AMO negative with the onset of this deep La Niña?
PDO is strongly positive right now, and will probably stay that way for a couple more years.
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/data/co...n/amon.us.data

And actually the AMO is also positive

2015 0.008 0.012 -0.113 -0.056 0.060 0.045 0.148 0.194 0.316 0.340 0.202 0.245
2016 0.247 0.171 0.204

CFSv2 temps land and ocean


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Old 05-03-2016, 05:30 AM
 
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What the CFSv2 was showing this Feb compared with now for July-Sep. A little different don't you think? LOL


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Old 05-04-2016, 09:30 AM
 
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What is this model up to?


https://twitter.com/strawn_04/status/727239139595153408
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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I wouldn't mind if we got an El Nino every year lol
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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What is this model up to?

Gimme a break. I don't know this guy but looking at one of his comments with this tweet


"Look at the last frame of that animation and you'll see a sudden shift in position of the warm pool suggesting *possibly* that"




Really? So a sudden shift in one position leads you to mentioning El Nino?


NO. The CFS2 does not show El Nino guys. At least according to that animation he's showing. Look at the strip of cold waters. That's La Nina
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Old 05-04-2016, 10:18 AM
 
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^^

Yeah, I didn't really see what he is claiming.


Looks like La Nina is barrelling ahead at a very fast pace. More rapid demise than the 98 Super Nino



Could be full blown La Nina in a matter of a few weeks


https://twitter.com/GenscapeWx/statu...41397341093889
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Old 05-04-2016, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Orcutt, CA (Santa Maria Valley)
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^^

Yeah, I didn't really see what he is claiming.


Looks like La Nina is barrelling ahead at a very fast pace. More rapid demise than the 98 Super Nino



Could be full blown La Nina in a matter of a few weeks


https://twitter.com/GenscapeWx/statu...41397341093889
Amazing!
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Old 05-04-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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https://twitter.com/jnmet/status/727911378196017152
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Old 05-05-2016, 04:11 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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According to some great posts on this forum, A strong Nino is always followed by a La Nina.... so when do you think this will happen?


Our Currently Strong Nino is weakening but we have to get a neutral state first before even dropping into La Nina territory and then stay there before even claiming it to be La Nina. Doesn't happen fast but has some years.


Here are years since 1950 that had the Nino-Nina flip

1954-55
1964-65
1970-71
1973-74
1983-84
1988-89
1995-96
1998-99
2005-06
2007-08
2010-11
The Niño-Niña flips were quite gradual for the Niñas starting in 1983-4, summer 1988, and 1995-6. The Niño-Niña flips were extremely abrupt during Spring 1973, Summer 2007 and Spring 2010. The others were somewhere in between. I suspect we are in a long-term cold cycle that began with the end of the last warm cycle in Spring-Summer 2007. The reverse of the "great Pacific shift" of 1976-7. During the warm cycle the flips to Niña are gradual and may barely get beyond cold-neutral. Good examples of those were 1980-1, 1983-4, 1995-6 and 2005-6.

An outlier was the the 1988-9 Niña, which was strong, but extremely brief. That one started slowly, with a gradual decay of the 1986-8 Niño. When the drop into Niña became pronounced it gave us the epic hot summer of 1988 (the one that spawned the "greenhouse" testi-lying of Hansen) and to a lesser extent allowed 1987 to be a fairly hot summer.

The rapid plunges from Niño to Niña in 1973, 2007 and 2010 gave us exceeding hot late summer periods and even, in the case of 1973 and 2010 epic heat earlier during the summer. June 1973 had some record heat in New York City. July 2010 had two 100+ days during July 2010 and another late July heat wave. Both 1973 and 2010 (as well as 1953, which I know less about) had upper 90's (and in some cases better) during the transition from August into September. 2007's heat was, strangely, in late September into mid-October. Columbus Day crested at 87 and later that week remained over 80.
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Old 05-06-2016, 03:58 PM
 
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