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Both do. Summers should be dry with temps of 22/12 at the very minimum. Winters can never have average lows below 0c, and high temps should be at least 7c.
Here we have 8/2 winters and mostly dry 24/14 summers, and I rate us a C. Wetter summers are acceptable if the temps are warmer, providing winters are also mild (Brisbane or Tokyo are acceptable, whereas Washington DC and Charlotte are not).
The ideal A+ climate is a true Mediterranean climate, with high dewpoints (Casablanca or Lampedusa). Anwhere with winter lows below freezing is instantly a D, regardless of the rest of the year.
Both are of equal weight to me; summers must have an average high above 80 F (preferably with lows in the 65-70F range) to meet my minimum standards. The more thunderstorms the better...........but I'll still take a totally thunderless climate with cold night and hot days such as Sacramento, CA over a thunder-rich climate like Chicago with winter averages below freezing.
Winters must absolutely have an average high above 55F, preferably in the 65F-70F range. At least 50 percent sunshine, preferably 70 percent or higher.
Oceanic climates are a no go because they never meet my criteria for either season.
Both are of equal weight to me; summers must have an average high above 80 F (preferably with lows in the 65-70F range) to meet my minimum standards. The more thunderstorms the better...........but I'll still take a totally thunderless climate with cold night and hot days such as Sacramento, CA over a thunder-rich climate like Chicago with winter averages below freezing.
Winters must absolutely have an average high above 55F, preferably in the 65F-70F range. At least 50 percent sunshine, preferably 70 percent or higher.
Oceanic climates are a no go because they never meet my criteria for either season.
That's not correct. Some Oceanic climates can meet your summer requirements in some years, and some Oceanic climates can meet your winter requirements in all years.
I'm very picky about summer. Winter just has to fall in an acceptable range.
What's your definition of acceptable and how cold of a winter are you willing to accept for your summer humidity with handsome warm rain/t-storms? I know you'd take anywhere in the Eastern 2/3 of the U.S over anywhere on the West coast, but would you take a hypthotical climate with Siberian style winters (-40 averages for 3 months) that also has humid/thundery tropical style summers over L.A or San Diego's?
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That's not correct. Some Oceanic climates can meet your summer requirements in some years, and some Oceanic climates can meet your winter requirements in all years.
There might be a few oceanic climates that might be able to produce an average high of 80 F during an abnormally warm month but lows will still be in the 50s. There also might be a handful of milder oceanic climates that produce a winter month with an average high above 55 F (such as Melbourne) but then their summers are too weak (except for during heat waves) and it's often too overcast much of the time. Plus their summer rain is still cold; even L.A is capable of producing rain at 80 F during a rare monsoon/hurricane remnant event. I doubt London, Seattle, or even Melbourne has ever seen rain at 80 F before.
In general, I find oceanic climates too dull, gloomy, and drab. If I can't get regular summer t-storm action, I'd much prefer a sunny Mediterranean climate to one dominated by cold overcast without much of a 'summer'
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What's your definition of acceptable and how cold of a winter are you willing to accept for your summer humidity with handsome warm rain/t-storms? I know you'd take anywhere in the Eastern 2/3 of the U.S over anywhere on the West coast, but would you take a hypthotical climate with Siberian style winters (-40 averages for 3 months) that also has humid/thundery tropical style summers over L.A or San Diego's?
There might be a few oceanic climates that might be able to produce an average high of 80 F during an abnormally warm month but lows will still be in the 50s. There also might be a handful of milder oceanic climates that produce a winter month with an average high above 55 F (such as Melbourne) but then their summers are too weak (except for during heat waves) and it's often too overcast much of the time. Plus their summer rain is still cold; even L.A is capable of producing rain at 80 F during a rare monsoon/hurricane remnant event. I doubt London, Seattle, or even Melbourne has ever seen rain at 80 F before.
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Yeah, whatever you're into. Just pointing out your error in stating that Oceanic climates don't get 55F and 50% sunshine. My climate averages 58-62% sunshine in al months, as well as exceeding a 55F average winter maximum.
My dislikes are climates that are cold winter and hot summer -I'm into comfortable weather, not extremes. And also climates that can't produce citrus -gotta have fresh OJ during winter.
Oceanic climates are the equivalent of the Incredible Hulk taking a dump on your face. **** 'em and their gaylord faux crummers and fecal overcast spam
What's your definition of acceptable and how cold of a winter are you willing to accept for your summer humidity with handsome warm rain/t-storms? I know you'd take anywhere in the Eastern 2/3 of the U.S over anywhere on the West coast, but would you take a hypthotical climate with Siberian style winters (-40 averages for 3 months) that also has humid/thundery tropical style summers over L.A or San Diego's?
I wouldn't take either, I would stay where I am now.
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