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It amazes me how far ahead Philly is than NW NJ. I guess being rural and higher elevation makes all the difference.
I'll have to get out to the burbs next week and get some shots to see how far along they are. I went out there in March and got pulled over by the cop, but it seemed to me that suburb was very similar to the city. There is someone on here from Doylestown, which is like 20 or so miles north of the city. That I would think would be behind, but not to the level of NW NJ. The winter temps, and the elevation there make it much more like Scranton than Philadelphia. And Scranton is way behind Southeastern PA.
I guess Philly's uhi prevented the city from dropping as low as these rural areas during the cold snap, imagine during a regular year they would be all closer together.
We dropped into the mid 20'sF so we were pretty bad also. And no, in a regular year SE PA is always further along than CT or NW New Jersey. That is like saying Raleigh equals Wilmington, NC. Way different.
I guess Philly's uhi prevented the city from dropping as low as these rural areas during the cold snap, imagine during a regular year they would be all closer together.
And Raleigh has a UHI as well you know. I bet far outside Raleigh it didn't green up nearly as fast. That is repeated in every town and city in this country and world. Rural areas are just plain colder than cities and even towns. That is fact until you get to coastal areas.
Considering your climate and latitude you should have looked like that in winter.
My understanding is you guys have difficulty with tomatoes after mid June is that right? I know that is true on the Gulf Coast. Way too humid and hot and the tomaters just fry up and get rot or mold.
The beauty of our climate is tomatoes start being picked in June and go all thru to October with no stopping. Tomatoes prefer 80'sF far more than 90'sF. Everyone thinks tomatoes like hot dry weather and that is not true. They like warm, but not really hot and humid. Nothing in the US beats a jersey tomato imo. Perfect sandy loamy soil and climate for them in summer. You should see the huge beefsteaks we get from farmers markets in summer.
The beauty of our climate is tomatoes start being picked in June and go all thru to October with no stopping. Tomatoes prefer 80'sF far more than 90'sF. Everyone thinks tomatoes like hot dry weather and that is not true. They like warm, but not really hot and humid. Nothing in the US beats a jersey tomato imo. Perfect sandy loamy soil and climate for them in summer. You should see the huge beefsteaks we get from farmers markets in summer.
That's true, it doesn't need to be hot for tomatoes, just as long as it doesn't get too cold.
A good summer here for tomatoes. Those beefsteaks really did feel like slicing up beef.
I'll have to get out to the burbs next week and get some shots to see how far along they are. I went out there in March and got pulled over by the cop, but it seemed to me that suburb was very similar to the city. There is someone on here from Doylestown, which is like 20 or so miles north of the city. That I would think would be behind, but not to the level of NW NJ. The winter temps, and the elevation there make it much more like Scranton than Philadelphia. And Scranton is way behind Southeastern PA.
That would be me! Lol yeah, this sustained stretch of freezing nights has really slowed things down big time. I'd say 95% of the trees still have little or no leaf growth on them. In addition, the flowering magnolias were pretty badly damaged by the repetitive freezes. Here's our temps over the last 2 weeks -
April 4 --- 51/32
April 5 --- 42/25
April 6 --- 49/21
April 7 --- 57/41
April 8 --- 46/36
April 9 --- 36/28
April 10 --- 47/26
April 11 --- 63/38
April 12 --- 60/42
April 13 --- 54/31
April 14 --- 61/32
April 15 --- 62/33
April 16 --- 66/36
April 17 --- 73/34 (great during the day, but still at night)
And Raleigh has a UHI as well you know. I bet far outside Raleigh it didn't green up nearly as fast. That is repeated in every town and city in this country and world. Rural areas are just plain colder than cities and even towns. That is fact until you get to coastal areas.
The state at this point, outside the mountains that is, looks all the same, but yeah Raleigh probably was a couple days ahead of most rural areas back in march and early april. Raleighs uhi though is not as massive as phillys.
Considering your climate and latitude you should have looked like that in winter.
My understanding is you guys have difficulty with tomatoes after mid June is that right? I know that is true on the Gulf Coast. Way too humid and hot and the tomaters just fry up and get rot or mold.
The beauty of our climate is tomatoes start being picked in June and go all thru to October with no stopping. Tomatoes prefer 80'sF far more than 90'sF. Everyone thinks tomatoes like hot dry weather and that is not true. They like warm, but not really hot and humid. Nothing in the US beats a jersey tomato imo. Perfect sandy loamy soil and climate for them in summer. You should see the huge beefsteaks we get from farmers markets in summer.
I wonder, what will happen to my tomatoes this summer, never knew they can rot because of heat and humidity, then again the gulf is more humid than here.
We dropped into the mid 20'sF so we were pretty bad also. And no, in a regular year SE PA is always further along than CT or NW New Jersey. That is like saying Raleigh equals Wilmington, NC. Way different.
No, we are never really that far behind Wilmington nc, maybe a week at most but that's because they are warmer. Also considering your averages are close to his the difference should never be that stark, I know you will be ahead but not that ahead, they should have more growth than that.
Comparison pic... You can CLEARLY see we are ahead this year.
Last year April 16th on left. This year on right.
Last year about 2 weeks late. This year we are normal now.
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