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Old 03-03-2016, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Sydney, which is humid subtropical (Cfa), closely borders the oceanic climate (Cfb) to the west (Blue Mountains) and south (Wollongong). What about your city?

(NOT to be confused with "transitional", where a city would be halfway between two climate zones.)
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:38 PM
 
Location: C: Home R: Monroe CT, Climate:Dfa
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Monroe is pretty close to a Cfa climate and NYC is pretty close to being a Dfa climate.
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Sydney, which is humid subtropical (Cfa), closely borders the oceanic climate (Cfb) to the west (Blue Mountains) and south (Wollongong). What about your city?

(NOT to be confused with "transitional", where a city would be halfway between two climate zones.)
Wollongong and Sydney's different climate grouping, are proof that classifications are useless.

I've spent quite a bit of time in Nowra, and never felt like a trip to Sydney was a journey from one climate zone to another.

My climate has areas that are 9C colder, within 15 km.
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:44 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Wollongong and Sydney's different climate grouping, are proof that classifications are useless.

I've spent quite a bit of time in Nowra, and never felt like a trip to Sydney was a journey from one climate zone to another.

My climate has areas that are 9C colder, within 15 km.
Tell me about it.

Didn't I once tell you (in a little debate) that Koppen's system is kinda BS and needs some alterations?
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Tell me about it.

Didn't I once tell you (in a little debate) that Koppen's system is kinda BS and needs some alterations?
I tried to start a thread on the uselessness of classifications, but it crashed and burned.

When an imaginary line is drawn between two climates as similar as Sydney and Wollongong, then one can only conclude, that deceit is the intention.

The golden rule is - "climates that feel the same, are the same'

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Old 03-04-2016, 01:05 AM
 
Location: White House, TN
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We're Cfa, but closely border Dfa. Nashville, TN averages 37.7 F / 3.2 C in January; my area averages probably about 3 degrees F colder. (34.7 F / 1.5 C), not far from Dfa.
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Old 03-04-2016, 01:31 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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I tried to start a thread on the uselessness of classifications, but it crashed and burned.

When an imaginary line is drawn between two climates as similar as Sydney and Wollongong, then one can only conclude, that deceit is the intention.

The golden rule is - "climates that feel the same, are the same'
Sydney and Wollongong could both be Cfb or Cfa. These two seem like "climatic twins". I just don't see them under two different climate zones.

However, the inland suburbs of Sydney (i.e. Penrith and Richmond) do differ from Sydney and Wollongong. Perhaps you can label the suburbs Cfa (for their warmer summers), and the coastal cities (which have cooler, breezier summers) as Cfb.

P.S. Nowra and Picton, which are closer to Wollongong (though inland) seem like Cfa's to me.

Anyway, that's how I would classify the region:

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Old 03-04-2016, 01:53 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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London is not close to any other climate zones, but individual years are as likely to be classified as Csb as they are Cfb.
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Old 03-04-2016, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Either Sydney and Wollongong could both be Cfb or Cfa - I don't know. Because these two seem like "climatic twins". I just don't see them under two different climate zones.

However, the inland suburbs of Sydney (i.e. Penrith and Richmond) do differ from Sydney and Wollongong. Perhaps you can label the suburbs Cfa (for their warmer summers), and the coastal cities (which have cooler, breezier summers) as Cfb.

P.S. Nowra and Picton, which are closer to Wollongong (though inland) seem like Cfa's to me.

Anyway, that's how I would classify the region:
So Sydney is fundamentally more similar to Glasgow, than it is to Penrith?
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Old 03-04-2016, 02:24 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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So Sydney is fundamentally more similar to Glasgow, than it is to Penrith?
Yeaaaah...I guess that's when Koppen's blatant flaws show.

Heck, according to Koppen, Goulburn and Wagga Wagga, which are Cfb's, are more like Glasgow than they are like Sydney, apparently. Lol.
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