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Continuing my theme of ranking and comparing somewhat similar climates, let's try ranking these subtropical climates in order from your most to least favorite favorite. Also vote for your favorite in the poll.
All this talk of robustas has helped me solve an old mystery, i had a neighbor who had 3 young palms, all defoliate in winter 2014 an came back only for one to survive winter 2015, I had no clue what type of palms they were, the fronds were too light green to be windmill or sabal minor, definetely not sabal palm either, it was shaped differently. I was looking at pics of young robustas now an they look exactly like his. only 1 was still alive after 2015 an it easily pulled through winter 2016. Only for its owner to do the stupidest thing ever, he took it out of ground, I dont know what he did with it, he replaced it with guess what, majesty palms, the kind you see in lowes that are meant to grow indoors.
Absolutely! You'd be surprised. I'll get out sometime soon and post pictures. Of the Robustas I know of, none have died while I've been following them. Come to think of it, I believe you posted a picture of a pair of Robustas in downtown Columbia. They're still there today.
People in general don't know the difference between windmills, pindos or palmettos. As or CIDP's, there Isn't a huge market for them, especially if you can plant and grow palmettos with ease. Plus, CIDP's are generally more expensive. I'll give you a robusta to look up on streetview. I'm not that great at posting pictures, so I'll give you the address to view it for yourself. Those two particular Robustas are still there today and with the mild winter, they've sustained just a tad bit of leaf burn. These in particular seem to have a whole lot more Robusta than Filifera.
Gadsden street, on the block between Blanding and Laurel Street. Columbia, SC
I hear there was a carwash in charlotte that use to grow a few outside, they were zapped in winter 2014 though, street viewed them only palms left were the sabals and windmills. I saw a pic of a few Robusta's growing in front of some hotel in Raleigh, I dont know its location so dont know if they were protected or not. https://www.ncpalmtrees.com/index.ph...south-carolina
The photo below is the Robusta's in raleigh. this links is one of a palm grower in northeastern nc. He grew all these palms in nc. The slideshow I linked shows some washingtonias in Columbia sc also.
Those Robusta's in Raleigh look perfect. They must brown every year like they do here, but the good thing about Robusta's is that if you give them heat, humidity and precipitation, they'll have a green, full crown of fronds by May.
As for your neighbor, at least he's planting palms I wish my neighbors had the same mentality. I was going to go out and take some pictures of Robusta's real time in my area, but I went ahead and located a few more on Google Earth. Again, I'm handicapped at posting pictures, but here are the coordinates.
33°59'08.04" N 81°02'06.44" W Still alive and well, by the way.
33°59'20.66" N 81°00'00.47" W One of my favorites.
Guajara, thanks for posting the previous pictures; I'd give you a positive rating, but it seems I already have
I have friends at usc, palms all are over the campus. sabal palms around the state house too. I love visiting the palmetto state. i personally like palms when I get near the white sand and farther in the low country , I know I am getting closer to the coast
Those Robusta's in Raleigh look perfect. They must brown every year like they do here, but the good thing about Robusta's is that if you give them heat, humidity and precipitation, they'll have a green, full crown of fronds by May.
As for your neighbor, at least he's planting palms I wish my neighbors had the same mentality. I was going to go out and take some pictures of Robusta's real time in my area, but I went ahead and located a few more on Google Earth. Again, I'm handicapped at posting pictures, but here are the coordinates.
33°59'08.04" N 81°02'06.44" W Still alive and well, by the way.
33°59'20.66" N 81°00'00.47" W One of my favorites.
Guajara, thanks for posting the previous pictures; I'd give you a positive rating, but it seems I already have
Why are you handicapped at posting pics? It is really easy if you use photobucket or image shack? I can send you directions in private message if you want.
I have friends at usc, palms all are over the campus. sabal palms around the state house too. I love visiting the palmetto state. i personally like palms when I get near the white sand and farther in the low country , I know I am getting closer to the coast
2008 way way too old of posts. They lost lots of palms after 2014 and 2015 which were the coldest in years there. You really can only look at palms post 2015 to get a sense of what can grow there and what is still there.
The 1980's did the same to the whole South. New Orleans lost tons of trees even. Orlando lost trees lol. Pensacola FL had towering CIDP's before the 80's and almost entirely they were wiped out.
Fear the 80's I'm telling you. There are horror stories from that period. The cold AMO is coming back. The only hope we have is that the PDO goes cold, but looks like it may have already began its 20-30 year run again as positive. I don't have much hope for milder winters down the road for the eastern US. I think it is going to get very bad again.
The last ones look like Date Palms (Phoenix dactylifera) not CIDPs (Phoenix Canariensis).
CIDPs have thicker stem and a bigger crown. In the US they also look the best in SoCal.(IMO) http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/File:3dd8a8.jpg
Those Robusta's in Raleigh look perfect. They must brown every year like they do here, but the good thing about Robusta's is that if you give them heat, humidity and precipitation, they'll have a green, full crown of fronds by May.
As for your neighbor, at least he's planting palms I wish my neighbors had the same mentality. I was going to go out and take some pictures of Robusta's real time in my area, but I went ahead and located a few more on Google Earth. Again, I'm handicapped at posting pictures, but here are the coordinates.
33°59'08.04" N 81°02'06.44" W Still alive and well, by the way.
33°59'20.66" N 81°00'00.47" W One of my favorites.
Guajara, thanks for posting the previous pictures; I'd give you a positive rating, but it seems I already have
Unless I'm missing something there is no robusta shown there. All I see are palmettos in the first location bolded above.
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I wish my neighbors had the same mentality. I was going to go out and take some pictures of Robusta's real time in my area, but I went ahead and located a few more on Google Earth. Again, I'm handicapped at posting pictures, but here are the coordinates. 
