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Old 04-11-2016, 10:02 PM
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NOAA will no longer issue CAPITALIZED WEATHER FORECASTS

National Weather Service will stop using all caps in its forecasts | National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

sad to see 'em go?
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Old 04-11-2016, 10:07 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I will.
Those all caps communications remind me of my navy days. Navy typewriters used by Radiomen used all caps, and that's how code was learned in school. "Hear the sound - type the letter"
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Old 04-12-2016, 05:03 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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OH CRAP!


Last thing I want to do is read pages and paragraphs worth of tight lower case letters. Very hard on the eyes with a phone or computer screen. Just something about the CAPS which makes it easier to read when its very lengthy.


They will have a choice so hopefully NWS offices in this region keep using the CAPS.


For those looking for these discussions you can use this link, choose the state, then click "area forecast discussion" link.


Or this one for Northeast.


And there is a thread on understanding the forecast terminologies here.
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Old 04-12-2016, 05:09 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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I ignore all of those posts because they were all caps. I might actually read some now, rather than having Cambium shout the latest developments at the forum.
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Old 04-12-2016, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Castlederp
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Those caps forecasts were SO annoying and such an eyesore. Will be glad to see the back of them on this forum.
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:21 AM
 
Location: New York
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Sayonara. I could never get through the entire wall of words unless it was something urgent or interesting.
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:29 AM
 
Location: EPWV
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OH CRAP!


Last thing I want to do is read pages and paragraphs worth of tight lower case letters. Very hard on the eyes with a phone or computer screen. Just something about the CAPS which makes it easier to read when its very lengthy.


They will have a choice so hopefully NWS offices in this region keep using the CAPS.


For those looking for these discussions you can use this link, choose the state, then click "area forecast discussion" link.


Or this one for Northeast.


And there is a thread on understanding the forecast terminologies here.


Yeah, watch them use the fonts where the 9's start looking like 8 [or 6's].
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Yeah, watch them use the fonts where the 9's start looking like 8 [or 6's].
Good point.. another reason why lowercase can get dizzying.


I don't know about you but this .... is just tiresome to read. And looks like a post in a forum rather than from a professional NWS forecast.


Detailed forecasts is fine, but a lengthy discussion? Not IMO


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Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Louisville KY
631 AM EDT TUE APR 12 2016

...Updated Aviation Discussion...

.SHORT TERM (Now through Wednesday)...
Issued at 300 AM EDT Tue Apr 12 2016

Light showers have all but ended and moved away over our southeast
counties of central KY as the surface cold front has moved through
the forecast area. Skies have become clear over south-central IN
with some mid and high clouds over central KY slowly departing to
the east. Temperatures should bottom out in the mid to upper 30s
over northern counties with some patchy frost possible this morning.

For today, the clouds over south/east parts of central KY will move
out resulting in a sunny day thereafter. Temperatures will top out
about 5-10 degrees below normal this afternoon, with mid 50s in
south-central IN to around 60/lower 60s in south-central KY.

Expect a clear sky tonight with chilly morning lows Wednesday
morning in the lower and mid 30s (except upper 30s in urban
Louisville). Frost is the main concern tonight. Surface high
pressure will be situated to our northeast so there could be a light
breeze which could help mitigate widespread frost, especially over
the western half of the forecast area farther away from the high.
Nevertheless, patchy frost is expected in western counties. Over the
eastern third of our area with more valley locations, expect frost
to potentially be a little more widespread early Wednesday morning.
Therefore, after coordination with NWS ILN and JKL, will issue a
Frost Advisory for 09-13z. The day shift will access the need to
alter the location of the Advisory across our forecast area if any.

During the day Wednesday, sunshine will prevail as high temperatures
moderating through the 60s. Some high clouds will begin to filter in
across our southwest counties during the day.

.LONG TERM (Wednesday Night through Monday)...
Issued at 315 AM EDT Tue Apr 12 2016

The second half of this week and this coming weekend will feature
significant amplification in the mid-level steering flow with a
blocky pattern forecast to set up across the U.S. An upper ridge
will build over the Ohio Valley and Great Lakes. Meanwhile, models
have been advertising that a closed mid-level low will move east-
northeastward from its current location near the Arizona-Mexico
border and into the southern Plains and western Tennessee Valley
late this week, essentially undercutting the ridge aloft to the
north. However, models differ in the strength and movement of this
low, which has implications on our forecast.

The NAM is most aggressive in driving moisture from the low into our
area, perhaps a bit too aggressive. However, the GFS, while
consistent with its previous runs in keeping the most moisture and
any showers to our south, tends to underdo such systems at times.
The latest ECMWF kind of middle-roads the 2 other models with a
chance of showers over at least our south-central KY counties (esp.
western portions) Thursday into Friday. Will keep POPs low at this
time until a more certain track is determined. Elsewhere, will
continue a dry forecast for now over the rest of central KY and
south-central IN.

High temperatures will moderate through the period (although
influenced by the evolution of the upper low). Expect most locations
to see highs in the upper 60s and lower 70s Friday, rising into the
mid and upper 70s by Sunday and Monday. The next chance of rain will
be about late next Monday and/or Tuesday.

from NWS NY


Quote:
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
712 AM EDT TUE APR 12 2016

.SYNOPSIS...
A COLD FRONT WILL PASS THROUGH THE FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING INTO
EARLY AFTERNOON. HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS THEN INTO THE REGION THROUGH
FRIDAY NIGHT...AND WILL BE OVER THE TRI-STATE FOR THE UPCOMING
WEEKEND. THE HIGH SLIDES OFFSHORE ON MONDAY.

.NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/...


COLD FRONT APPROACHING FROM EASTERN CENTRAL PA EARLY THIS
MORNING. MODERATE PRE-FRONTAL RAIN BAND ENTERING ORANGE COUNTY
WILL MOVE EAST THROUGH NYC/NJ METRO THIS MORNING. ALTHOUGH THIS
INITIAL RAIN BAND MAY WEAKEN...RAIN ACTIVITY SHOULD BECOME
INVIGORATED AS THE FRONTAL SYSTEM CROSSES LI/CT LATER THIS
MORNING INTO EARLY AFTERNOON IN RESPONSE TO A SOUTHERN STREAM JET
STREAK. AIRMASS IS EXPECTED TO BE STABLE...THEREFORE NO THUNDER IS
EXPECTED TO OCCUR.

MEANWHILE...A 50-55 KT LLJ OVER THE LI/CT THIS MORNING IS
PRODUCING GUSTS BETWEEN 20-30 MPH ACROSS LONG ISLAND AND CT
DESPITE A LOW LEVEL INVERSION. THE JET WILL GRADUALLY BE SHIFTING
E AS THE FRONT APPROACHES THIS MORNING...WITH WINDS WEAKENING
THROUGH THE MORNING.

MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THE FROPA/WIND SHIFT
THIS AFTN FROM W TO E THIS AFTN WITH RAIN ENDING AND CLEARING
SKIES. TEMPS ARE EXPECTED TO BE NEAR NORMAL TODAY.

.SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 PM WEDNESDAY/...
UPPER TROUGH AXIS PUSHES E OF THE AREA THIS EVE WITH QUASI-ZONAL
FLOW DEVELOPING ALOFT INTO WED. THE GROWING SEASON HAS NOW BEGUN
ACROSS THE ENTIRE FORECAST AREA AND THE COMBINATION OF CLEAR SKIES
AND LIGHT WINDS TONIGHT COULD PRODUCE WIDESPREAD FREEZING TEMPS
ACROSS INTERIOR PORTIONS OF THE LOWER HUDSON VALLEY AND SOUTHERN
CT AS WELL AS WESTERN PASSAIC IN NEW JERSEY. HAVE ISSUED A FREEZE
WATCH FOR THESE AREAS ALTHOUGH THE ONE FLY IN THE OINTMENT IS IF
WINDS DON`T DECOUPLE AS MUCH AS EXPECTED AND THUS KEEP TEMPS JUST
SHORT OF REACHING THE FREEZING MARK. ALSO HAVE NOT INCLUDED FROST
IN THE GRIDS FOR THE SAME REASON.

A SHORTWAVE TROUGH APPROACHES FROM THE GREAT LAKES DURING THE DAY
WED...BUT STRONG SUBSIDENCE WILL KEEP IT DRY WITH MINIMAL CLOUD
COVER. TEMPERATURES WILL BE A FEW DEGREES BELOW NORMAL BOTH
TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY.

.LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/...


GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH MEAN TROUGHING ACROSS THE NORTHEAST DURING
THE MIDWEEK...TRANSITIONING TO AN OMEGA BLOCKED PATTERN GOING INTO
THE WEEKEND...WITH CLOSED LOWS DEVELOPING ACROSS THE WESTERN US AND
WESTERN ATLANTIC AND UPPER RIDGING CENTERED OVER THE OHIO
VALLEY/GREAT LAKES.

FOR THE MID WEEK PERIOD...THE REGION WILL BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF
A CANADIAN MARITIME AIRMASS BETWEEN OFFSHORE LOWS AND STRONG
CANADIAN HIGH PRESSURE CENTERED OVER SOUTHEASTERN CANADA AND
EXTENDING SE DOWN THE COASTAL PLAIN INTO THE SE US. THIS SHOULD
SPELL MOSTLY SUNNY AND DRY CONDITIONS...WITH GUSTY NE FLOW AND
SEASONABLY MILD TEMPS DURING THE DAY. STRENGTH OF WINDS WILL DEPEND
ON PROXIMITY AND STRENGTH OF OFFSHORE LOWS. LATE DAY ARE SEABREEZES
LIKELY ALONG THE COAST.

SEE FIRE WEATHER SECTION FOR RELATED CONCERNS.

POTENTIAL FOR FROST/FREEZE CONDITIONS OUTSIDE OF THE NYC/NJ
METRO WED NIGHT AND THU NIGHT WITH NOCTURNAL DECOUPLING UNDER THE
DRY CANADIAN HIGH PRESSURE.

FOR FRI THROUGH THE WEEKEND...MODELS IN DECENT AGREEMENT WITH
WESTERN ATLANTIC UPPER LOW DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING LATE ENOUGH TO BE
FAR ENOUGH EAST OF THE AREA TO MAINTAIN DRY CONDITIONS. THE RESULT
IS UPPER RIDGING BUILDING FURTHER EAST INTO THE REGION...ALLOWING A
MODERATION OF AIRMASS THROUGH THE WEEKEND. WITH A DRY AIRMASS AND
SUNSHINE THIS TIME OF YEAR HAVE GONE SLIGHTLY ABOVE GUIDANCE...WITH
HIGH INTO THE 60S ON SAT AND 70S SUN/MON FOR MUCH OF THE AREA.

SIGNS THAT RIDGING MAY BEGIN TO FLATTEN EARLY NEXT WEEK...AND WITH
ACTIVE POLAR JET ACROSS CANADA...WILL HAVE TO MONITOR FOR POSSIBLE
BACK DOOR COLD FRONT. OTHERWISE...UNCERTAINTY EXISTS ON THE NEXT
CHANCE OF RAIN...AS THIS WILL DEPEND ON HOW QUICKLY OMEGA BLOCK
BREAKS DOWN. MAY NOT BE UNTIL MID TO LATE NEXT WEEK.
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Old 04-12-2016, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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Awwww man, I'm gonna miss feeling like THE NWS IS YELLING AT ME, TAKE COVER YOU'RE ABOUT TO ****ING DIE
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Old 04-12-2016, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Awwww man, I'm gonna miss feeling like THE NWS IS YELLING AT ME, TAKE COVER YOU'RE ABOUT TO ****ING DIE
LMAO! Oh, I mean ... lmao


I think they still will for warnings though. TORNADO BLIZZARD COMING!
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