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Old 04-21-2016, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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While I don't disagree with what you are saying... I think places like Miami have a strong tourist season in the winter months, not so much because of their own climate, but because of the climate from where people are visiting. Getting away from Chicago, New York, or even Atlanta in January probably has more to do with Miami being such an awesome place to visit in the winter than its own climate being slightly better in January than July.

Also, I think one flaw of your system is giving a little too much penalty to high humidity. Chicago being around 120 and Aruba being around 30 just seems a bit off. While it is true humidity is uncomfortable... I think there is a big difference between a dewpoint of 70 and 72-82 degrees and a dewpoint of 70 and 93-98 degrees.
I account for that in my system, a place like Hong Kong in July with a Hi of 89 Lo of 80 and DP of 76 gets a 0 for the month, while Nogales, AZ, which in July has a Hi of 93 Lo of 65 and DP of 58 gets a 12 for the month. And I chose highs of 84.5+ for when the humidity penalty kicks in due to the fact that generally, DP has a negligible effect on Heat Index at temps below 85
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:24 PM
 
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In Miami, the peak tourist seasons correspond to the months of December, March, July, and August. The quietest months are probably October, November. Most of the Miami tourist season is driven by several factors

1)Events going on in Miami (Art Basel, WMC/MMW, Ultra).
2)Weather in their home locations (cold up north means people are itching for a beach vacation).
3)Time off work (which is why summers and December are so high).
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Old 04-21-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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In Miami, the peak tourist seasons correspond to the months of December, March, July, and August. The quietest months are probably October, November. Most of the Miami tourist season is driven by several factors

1)Events going on in Miami (Art Basel, WMC/MMW, Ultra).
2)Weather in their home locations (cold up north means people are itching for a beach vacation).
3)Time off work (which is why summers and December are so high).
Alot of people condider 90 degrees with a DP of 75 (average Miami July) to be uncomfortable, that produces a Heat Index of around 105 or so
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Old 04-21-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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Alot of people condider 90 degrees with a DP of 75 (average Miami July) to be uncomfortable, that produces a Heat Index of around 105 or so
It's perfect beach weather, which is why many people go to Miami in July.
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Old 04-21-2016, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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It's perfect beach weather, which is why many people go to Miami in July.
People living and working there won't necessarily be able to do that. And especially outdoor workers like construction and landscapers etc will not be very comfortable while working, I know, I worked construction in Phoenix during June of 2008, and was a mover during July of 2009. When you are actually working as opposed to being a tourist, it changes things
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Old 04-21-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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Well, you're from Phoenix, so you're obviously biased towards warm temperatures. I would go crazy initially if I had to live in a climate with 80 degree highs all year, no matter how dry it was. Eventually I would adapt to it just as you have. I'm from a cold climate so I find that you rank 4-season comfortable climates too low for my liking, and warm climates like L.A way too high for my liking. Kansas City's climate beats LA hands down.
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Old 04-21-2016, 01:20 PM
 
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It's perfect beach weather, which is why many people go to Miami in July.
That's not beach weather. That's "sit in an air-conditioned home and drink a cold pina colada" weather.
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Old 04-21-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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That's not beach weather. That's "sit in an air-conditioned home and drink a cold pina colada" weather.
Well that's beach weather, our best weather for enjoying the beach without being cold. Today, I'd say it's too cold to be perfectly comfortable at the beach (especially if swimming) for example and it's 81F.
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Old 04-21-2016, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Well, you're from Phoenix, so you're obviously biased towards warm temperatures. I would go crazy initially if I had to live in a climate with 80 degree highs all year, no matter how dry it was. Eventually I would adapt to it just as you have. I'm from a cold climate so I find that you rank 4-season comfortable climates too low for my liking, and warm climates like L.A way too high for my liking. Kansas City's climate beats LA hands down.
I grew up in a 4 season climate, Rochester, NY which on my system ranks 108, while KC ranked 112, and I feel those are about right. Most people find temps between 50-85 ideal. Rochester scores perfect 20s from June-Sept, but outside those months, gets 5 in April, 15 in May and 8 in Oct, while Nov-March are all 0s.
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Old 04-21-2016, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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Alot of people condider 90 degrees with a DP of 75 (average Miami July) to be uncomfortable, that produces a Heat Index of around 105 or so
Miami from April-November is a ****ty, merciless hellhole.
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