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Old 05-24-2016, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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Yes, but as said above, England does have warm winters for its latitude.
That it does. London has the same winter temps as Virginia, it's insane
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:38 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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That it does. London has the same winter temps as Virginia, it's insane
London has warmer winters than parts of NC. That just means NC is cold for the latitude.

I think the UK summers are warmer than any other oceanic climates above 50N. London and Portsmouth are the warmest cities above 50N, by annual mean temp.
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:45 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I would not say UK's summers are warm for the latitude, many continental climates are warmer in summer, basically most of Siberia has a 19c average in the warmest month, and these places are located at more northern locations. Same goes for Canada.... Or maybe you could say that Siberian and Canadian climates are warm for the latitude whereas the UK is normal.

UK's winters are warm for the latitude though, and that is definitely an oceanic influence. To me this is the most prevalent of both, by far.
This doesn't involve continental climates, but is a comparison between UK and NZ.

My climate has cooler summers than somewhere like Portsmouth, but has warmer sea temperatures than Portsmouth. Invercargill has cooler summers than Edinburgh, but has warmer sea temperatures than Edinburgh. That happens because the UK has more continental influence in summer.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:21 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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This doesn't involve continental climates, but is a comparison between UK and NZ.

My climate has cooler summers than somewhere like Portsmouth, but has warmer sea temperatures than Portsmouth. Invercargill has cooler summers than Edinburgh, but has warmer sea temperatures than Edinburgh. That happens because the UK has more continental influence in summer.
Your sea temps are much warmer in the winter, but in summer they are the same, or even slightly warmer in Portsmouth compared to the area I checked (Inner Cut)?
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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I'm not sure I understand your reasoning, but that is strange that Invercargill has cooler summers than Edinburgh. In general the same latitudes in the southern hemisphere have cooler temperatures than in the northern hemisphere, but that is mostly because the landmass is much bigger in the northern hemisphere, so I guess the UK is more influenced by the eurasian landmass in the end, but that's really stretching it.

Also, the gulf stream.

The UK has warm summers for the latitude compared to NZ and other places in the southern hemisphere at the same latitude like Ushuaia, but otherwise, no.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I'm not sure I understand your reasoning, but that is strange that Invercargill has cooler summers than Edinburgh. In general the same latitudes in the southern hemisphere have cooler temperatures than in the northern hemisphere, but that is mostly because the landmass is much bigger in the northern hemisphere, so I guess the UK is more influenced by the eurasian landmass in the end, but that's really stretching it.

Also, the gulf stream.
Invercargill has warmer sea temperatures than Edinburgh. My climate has warmer sea temperatures than Portsmouth.

The gulf stream doesn't make those places warmer, the continental heatwaves makes them warmer.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Your sea temps are much warmer in the winter, but in summer they are the same, or even slightly warmer in Portsmouth compared to the area I checked (Inner Cut)?
Motueka and Nelson have warmer summer sea temperatures than Portsmouth by 2.5C.

Inner Cut is just using satellite imagery of open water sites, and is just quoting averages. Current open water temperature is about 1.4C warner(15.6C) than the figure in their site.

Inner cut is actually quite a bit warmer, as it is a sheltered site like Portsmouth.

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Old 05-25-2016, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Invercargill has warmer sea temperatures than Edinburgh. My climate has warmer sea temperatures than Portsmouth.

The gulf stream doesn't make those places warmer, the continental heatwaves makes them warmer.
continental heatwaves in Edinburgh ?
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:39 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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continental heatwaves in Edinburgh ?
Well, continental influence then - how else do you explain the warmer temperatures in Edinburgh?

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Old 05-25-2016, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Motueka and Nelson have warmer summer sea temperatures than Portsmouth by 2.5C.
Using seatemperature.org website for the warmest months in Motueka & Portsmouth it gives the following:

M: Jan 17.4C Feb 18.4C Mar 17.8C

P: Jul 15.3C Aug 16.8C Sep 17.3C

Mind you those averages for Portsmouth don't seem that accurate as the Solent gets up to around 18C/19C & in warmer summers can be 20C/21C...
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