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Old 08-06-2016, 02:55 PM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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Im a bit disappointed with this cold snap on New Zealand,Towns like Arrowtown even got -10C this morning,even Southern Brazil got -8.9C on a 900m town in early June,coldest temperature in Arrowtown was -8C,thats very mild for a place at 45S/400m of altitude.
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Old 08-06-2016, 03:48 PM
 
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Darwin Australia has been dropping into the mid 50s Fahrenheit (13 Celcius) these past couple nights. Very impressive for a coastal, low elevation city deep in the tropics at 12 degrees latitude.

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Old 08-06-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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Im a bit disappointed with this cold snap on New Zealand,Towns like Arrowtown even got -10C this morning,even Southern Brazil got -8.9C on a 900m town in early June,coldest temperature in Arrowtown was -8C,thats very mild for a place at 45S/400m of altitude.
Not too surprised. Conditions in the SI have not matched those producing the really low readings. Mt Cook village dropped to around -11C last night but that's nothing special. Some of the locations in the North Island may nudge some low records perhaps.
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Old 08-06-2016, 04:26 PM
 
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Not too surprised. Conditions in the SI have not matched those producing the really low readings. Mt Cook village dropped to around -11C last night but that's nothing special. Some of the locations in the North Island may nudge some low records perhaps.
I was expecting at least -12 in Arrowtown,even Balmaceda,Chile at same latitude and nearly same altitude got -14C,and this winter was normal there,in cold snaps temperature falls to nearly -20C,but that is it,lets wait for another time.
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Old 08-06-2016, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires and La Plata, ARG
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Im a bit disappointed with this cold snap on New Zealand,Towns like Arrowtown even got -10C this morning,even Southern Brazil got -8.9C on a 900m town in early June,coldest temperature in Arrowtown was -8C,thats very mild for a place at 45S/400m of altitude.
Well, NZ SI is a medium size island sorrounded by the ocean. So obviously is heavily tempered by the sea waters and, outside of high mountains and valleys, is pretty hard to reach double digit negative lows there. Its like the patagonian coasts here. Well in fact the NZ coast does it a bit better. For instance, in this July Invercargill had a mean temp of 5.8ºC while Comodoro Rivadavia, at same latitude, had 7.3ºC.

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Buenos Aires registered 21ºC today, so the record streak of days below 20s is oficially over. It ended at 103 days (April 24th was the last one).
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Old 08-06-2016, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I was expecting at least -12 in Arrowtown,even Balmaceda,Chile at same latitude and nearly same altitude got -14C,and this winter was normal there,in cold snaps temperature falls to nearly -20C,but that is it,lets wait for another time.
Nobody else was, apart from some wildly optimistic meteorologist (or was it just software?) It's likely too late in the winter, and the setup is wrong. A place like Arrowtown needs a few days of high pressure/radiation frost, and no morning downslope wind. Locations near Alexandra were showing -10C at an altitude of 160 metres.

-4C here this morning, and a nice but chilly day, with 8C at 2.45pm. Had a coffee at the wharf and took some photos.
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Old 08-06-2016, 09:48 PM
 
Location: João Pessoa,Brazil(The easternmost point of Americas)
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Nobody else was, apart from some wildly optimistic meteorologist (or was it just software?) It's likely too late in the winter, and the setup is wrong. A place like Arrowtown needs a few days of high pressure/radiation frost, and no morning downslope wind. Locations near Alexandra were showing -10C at an altitude of 160 metres.

-4C here this morning, and a nice but chilly day, with 8C at 2.45pm. Had a coffee at the wharf and took some photos.
Models showed something interesting,and some climate maps too,because that I was dissapointed,but its my fault to think that this place in New Zealand could get very cold,i have made a mistake

As you know,I like to study SH climate and vegetation,and when there are some chance of very cold temps(something rare) ,i became so excited,but sometimes just dont happens.
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Old 08-07-2016, 02:54 AM
 
Location: Wellington and North of South
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Nobody else was, apart from some wildly optimistic meteorologist (or was it just software?) It's likely too late in the winter, and the setup is wrong. A place like Arrowtown needs a few days of high pressure/radiation frost, and no morning downslope wind. Locations near Alexandra were showing -10C at an altitude of 160 metres.

-4C here this morning, and a nice but chilly day, with 8C at 2.45pm. Had a coffee at the wharf and took some photos.
If one looks back at events like those of 1968, 1991 and 1995, in each case the winter conditions preceding the event were far more favourable, especially in 1991.
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Old 08-07-2016, 11:38 AM
 
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Models showed something interesting,and some climate maps too,because that I was dissapointed,but its my fault to think that this place in New Zealand could get very cold,i have made a mistake

As you know,I like to study SH climate and vegetation,and when there are some chance of very cold temps(something rare) ,i became so excited,but sometimes just dont happens.
Arrowtown can get cold but this isn't the year for cold in NZ, with a record warm May, the third warmest June, and July at 1.2C warmer than average for regions like Queenstown - a big number for NZ.

I made the point earlier (using Molesworth and Maquinchao an an example), that NZ climates might see less extreme temperatures than South America, but possibly a higher amount of sub freezing nights. That was based on averages being similar while deviations seem more common in South America.

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Old 08-07-2016, 01:58 PM
 
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Arrowtown can get cold but this isn't the year for cold in NZ, with a record warm May, the third warmest June, and July at 1.2C warmer than average for regions like Queenstown - a big number for NZ.

I made the point earlier (using Molesworth and Maquinchao an an example), that NZ climates might see less extreme temperatures than South America, but possibly a higher amount of sub freezing nights. That was based on averages being similar while deviations seem more common in South America.
Thats mostly because of the humidity of thoses places,while most Patagonia are dry,who means extremes events.


Gfs has take out most of the cold it showed for Subtropical areas,but there are an interesting scenario for Southern Patagonia ,its showing an movement of Low pressure followed by an trough there,with Tierra del Fuego getting a lot of snow(30+cm),by the first wave,snow may fall mostly on TF,and in the second,Central and some parts of Northern Patagonia may get some.



2m anomaly and 250mb winds clearly showing the temperature difference to the South and North of the Jet.



10 days snowfall total:






Look that Monster Storm on Southern Atlantic:

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