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Old 07-01-2016, 09:40 AM
B87
 
Location: Surrey/London
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Originally Posted by flamingGalah! View Post
You really are desperately clutching at straws

Countless people have told you that mature plants & trees are able to take temperatures much lower than their zone rating for short periods, so certainly "one miute" at such a temperature would not be enough to kill or even severely damage mature plants & trees. Coconut palms are very tropical, but even they have survived short dips below freezing, as low as -3C/-4C, if the cold snap is short lived many things can survive. It is only prolonged cold temperatures that do much of the damage... Also, as has been pointed out, many of those trees/plants if they were killed back then would have been replaced by others which would now be old & mature.

Weather records are cross checked & verified, these temperature records would not be stated if they were not sure they had actually happened. Just face facts the US south, even the coast, is not the subtropical paradise you wish it was
He refuses to accept official temperature measurements, but then accepts a ridiculous unofficial -21c here in the 1700s as fact, lol.
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Old 07-01-2016, 10:04 AM
 
Location: In transition
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Damn,Its Insane that places at that low latitude and altitude get highs and lows like that,here in South America the places at low altitude that can get temps like that are only above 45S,below that almost impossible.
...And that is why you are so lucky in the Southern Hemisphere
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Old 07-01-2016, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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SH climates are terrible. They're either god-awfully boring and mild or extremely cold year-round. Lol
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Old 07-01-2016, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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In fact looks like they went 45hrs straight below freezing.

Was in the single digits for 10 hours.
Remarkable for such a warm climate!

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SH climates are terrible. They're either god-awfully boring and mild or extremely cold year-round. Lol
Agreed. Really the only other region that comes close to the US is eastern Asia, and they are excessively cloudy.
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Old 07-01-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: United Nations
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Don't you wish the Southern Hemisphere had more landmass between 50 °S and 60 °S? I wish, the world would have been much more interesting. Also I wanted to see Spanish speaking countries with cities with average lows below -20 °C to see what their reactions would have been. But if the world is like this, I just have to accept it.
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Old 07-01-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: In transition
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I think the configuration of continents is not good that's why you have weird temp anomalies in Eastern North America. North America needs to move south by at least 10 degrees latitude to make more of it more habitable. At least that way you could have fairly large cities in Northern Canada instead of barren wasteland.
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Old 07-01-2016, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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He refuses to accept official temperature measurements, but then accepts a ridiculous unofficial -21c here in the 1700s as fact, lol.
I know, he claimed that Malta has been colder than anywhere in the US south at some point, yet weather records here going back around 200 years have not recorded anything lower than +1.2C, but the records from the US south must be wrong lol...
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Old 07-01-2016, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I think the configuration of continents is not good that's why you have weird temp anomalies in Eastern North America. North America needs to move south by at least 10 degrees latitude to make more of it more habitable. At least that way you could have fairly large cities in Northern Canada instead of barren wasteland.
That would put Phoenix south of the Tropic of Cancer, could only imagine how hot we would be then, probably would be like Luxor, Egypt but with summer rain
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:11 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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I think the configuration of continents is not good that's why you have weird temp anomalies in Eastern North America. North America needs to move south by at least 10 degrees latitude to make more of it more habitable. At least that way you could have fairly large cities in Northern Canada instead of barren wasteland.

Umm no, that would make Texas hotter than it ALREADY is.. no thanks!
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:57 PM
 
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That would put Phoenix south of the Tropic of Cancer, could only imagine how hot we would be then, probably would be like Luxor, Egypt but with summer rain
Luxor has more than half a million people... and Khartoum in Sudan has over 5 million people so no problem with people living in these climates. Can't say the same for the Canadian Arctic which has NO cities at all.



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Umm no, that would make Texas hotter than it ALREADY is.. no thanks!
It would only make winters warmer, summers would stay the same or actually get slightly cooler with a bit more summer cloud so perfectly habitable for millions.
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