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Old 08-12-2016, 04:38 PM
 
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I have a question about humidity level, outside temperature, and what it feels like temperature.

On my Iphone weather channel app, I see NYC has 46% humidity, 97F temp, but feels like 106F . . .

San Diego has 67% humidity, and 75F temp, and feels like 75F . . .

Veracruz has 70% humidity, 90F temp, and feels like 106F . . .

Quebec City has humidity of 78%, temp of 68F, and feels like 68F . . .

Tulsa OK ahs 74% humidity, 86F temp, and feels like 97F . . .

Houston is 46% humidity, 99F temp, feels like 111F.

I am not seeing a pattern here. El Centro has 33% humidity, with 106F temp, but it feels like 117F according to the weather channel app . . . Tianjin China has 94% humidity, 77F temp, and feels like 79F, but it is raining.

So does humidity only make temps feel hotter when temp and humidity are at certain levels? Like if temp is below 80F, and humidity is high percent, then it still wont feel hotter? If temp is over 80 than humidty can be at low percent and will have drastic impact on real feel? Is 80F the magic number for humidity to take effect?

Ok that is a few questions.
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Old 08-12-2016, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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It's the dewpoint rather than relative humidity that affect the heat index/feels like temp

For example 100° with 25% humidity and 80° with 50% humidity both have a dewpoint of 60°
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:03 AM
 
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It's the dewpoint rather than relative humidity that affect the heat index/feels like temp

For example 100° with 25% humidity and 80° with 50% humidity both have a dewpoint of 60°
Then does 100F with 25% feel very muggy or is it dry?
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Then does 100F with 25% feel very muggy or is it dry?
Convert the temperature and relative humidity into dew point -the higher the dew point, the muggier it will feel.

Dew Point Calculator

A 58F dewpoint is moderate humidity at 100F -enough to lessen the effect of sweating.
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Old 08-13-2016, 04:49 AM
 
Location: 44N 89W
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Then does 100F with 25% feel very muggy or is it dry?
Most people are not bothered by a dew point of 60*F (16*C), so it would be low to moderate humidity.

As a general rule, the dew point scale (for me anyway) goes something like this:
Below 55*F (13*C): No noticeable humidity.
55-64*F (13-18*C): Noticeable but not bothersome.
65-69*F (18-21*C): Getting a bit muggy
70-74*F (21-23*C): Very humid and unpleasant
75-79*F (24-26*C): Extremely humid
80*F (27*C) and up: Oppressively humid
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Old 08-13-2016, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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I have a question about humidity level, outside temperature, and what it feels like temperature.

On my Iphone weather channel app, I see NYC has 46% humidity, 97F temp, but feels like 106F . . .

San Diego has 67% humidity, and 75F temp, and feels like 75F . . .

Veracruz has 70% humidity, 90F temp, and feels like 106F . . .

Quebec City has humidity of 78%, temp of 68F, and feels like 68F . . .

Tulsa OK ahs 74% humidity, 86F temp, and feels like 97F . . .

Houston is 46% humidity, 99F temp, feels like 111F.

I am not seeing a pattern here. El Centro has 33% humidity, with 106F temp, but it feels like 117F according to the weather channel app . . . Tianjin China has 94% humidity, 77F temp, and feels like 79F, but it is raining.

So does humidity only make temps feel hotter when temp and humidity are at certain levels? Like if temp is below 80F, and humidity is high percent, then it still wont feel hotter? If temp is over 80 than humidty can be at low percent and will have drastic impact on real feel? Is 80F the magic number for humidity to take effect?

Ok that is a few questions.
Watch the first video in this thread.. might help. Learn about and watch the dew points and forget about the relative humidity indicator

http://www.city-data.com/forum/weath...nt-thread.html
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Old 08-13-2016, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Orcutt, CA (Santa Maria Valley)
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I have a question about humidity level, outside temperature, and what it feels like temperature.

On my Iphone weather channel app, I see NYC has 46% humidity, 97F temp, but feels like 106F . . .

San Diego has 67% humidity, and 75F temp, and feels like 75F . . .

Veracruz has 70% humidity, 90F temp, and feels like 106F . . .

Quebec City has humidity of 78%, temp of 68F, and feels like 68F . . .

Tulsa OK ahs 74% humidity, 86F temp, and feels like 97F . . .

Houston is 46% humidity, 99F temp, feels like 111F.

I am not seeing a pattern here. El Centro has 33% humidity, with 106F temp, but it feels like 117F according to the weather channel app . . . Tianjin China has 94% humidity, 77F temp, and feels like 79F, but it is raining.

So does humidity only make temps feel hotter when temp and humidity are at certain levels? Like if temp is below 80F, and humidity is high percent, then it still wont feel hotter? If temp is over 80 than humidty can be at low percent and will have drastic impact on real feel? Is 80F the magic number for humidity to take effect?

Ok that is a few questions.
Relative humidity is completely useless and inaccurate. Use Dewpoint instead

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Old 08-13-2016, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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One note, that 106° with 33% humidity in El Centro works out to a dewpoint of 72° ! No wonder the heat index was 117°
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Old 08-13-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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Relative humidity is completely useless and inaccurate. Use Dewpoint instead
So 70 degrees temperature can be borderline oppressively humid?
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Old 08-13-2016, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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So 70 degrees temperature can be borderline oppressively humid?
Only if a 70° dewpoint as well. When SoCal has a temp of 70°, dewpoint is usually in the 50's to maybe 60°

Dewpoint is the amount of water that's in the air, so if the temp and dewpoint were the same, you would have fog, dew and possibly rain.

The rough estimate of dewpoint is if the dewpoint is 20° lower than the air temp, then humidity is 50%, and it gets halved every 20° difference after that, so:

20° difference=50% humidity, 40° difference=25% humidity, 60° difference=13% humidity, 80° difference=6% humidity, 100° difference=3% humidity
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