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Old 08-13-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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Honolulu
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Old 08-13-2016, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I disagree when the driest month only has 13% of the precipitation of the wettest month. That's a pretty significant drying trend. (Forks, WA)
But even Koppen says that driest high sun month has to have less than 1/3rd of wettest low sun month AND be less than 30mm to be mediterranean
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Old 08-13-2016, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Coastal WA (and I mean the Pacific coast, not Puget Sound) has Cfb, it's not truly Csb when your driest month sees 25-30mm of rain
It depends on the ratio.

A 800-1000% difference between winter and summer rainfall not being regarded as significant, just seems like climatologists being lazy to me.

Don't worry about the 30mm threshold -nothing magical happens at exactly 30mm or less.
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Old 08-13-2016, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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It depends on the ratio.

A 800-1000% difference between winter and summer rainfall not being regarded as significant, just seems like climatologists being lazy to me.
See my post above yours ^^^

Even Koppen sets a limit on how dry the driest month can be and still be dry summer
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Old 08-13-2016, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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See my post above yours ^^^

Even Koppen sets a limit on how dry the driest month can be and still be dry summer
It's the pattern that matters, not the amount. Cfb doesn't provide the best understanding of Coastal Washington climates, while Csb does.
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Old 08-13-2016, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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It's the pattern that matters, not the amount. Cfb doesn't provide the best understanding of Coastal Washington climates, while Csb does.
We've had this debate before, you aren't going to change my mind, and I'm not going to change yours, so lets leave it at that
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Old 08-13-2016, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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We've had this debate before, you aren't going to change my mind, and I'm not going to change yours, so lets leave it at that
Sure, I accept that you don't see a 1000% difference in monthly rainfall as in any way significant, and nothing will change that.
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Old 08-13-2016, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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Old 08-13-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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raleigh nc
columbia sc
austin or salt lake

Honolulu hands down is the best if you really consider hawaii as a part of US. Seems to be a pretty strong sovereignty movement there.

Why are so many state capitals in such odd places. Albany new york? Tallahassee has to be the most bizarre city for a state capital
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Old 08-13-2016, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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raleigh nc
columbia sc
austin or salt lake

Why are so many state capitals in such odd places. Albany new york? Tallahassee has to be the most bizarre city for a state capital
Here in America, state capitals were designed to be centrally located for the most part, so that all represented areas would have easy access. Boston seems to be the glaring exception, but back in the 1700's, no one lived west of Worcester, so Boston was the center of Mass's populated areas at that time. Also, unlike in Europe, Australia or Asia, our capitals are generally not the biggest cities in their respective states (exceptions being Phoenix, Little Rock, Denver, Atlanta, Boise, Indianapolis, Des Moines, Boston, St Paul(since St Paul and Minneapolis border each other), Jackson, Columbus (though Cleveland is biggest metro), Oklahoma City, Providence, Nashville (Memphis was bigger until recently), Salt Lake City, Charleston WV, Cheyenne), so in the lower 48, only 1 in 3 states have the capital as the biggest city. That was done so that less populous parts of the states wouldn't be underrepresented in their respective state houses.

Just think if LA or SF was the capital of California instead of Sacramento, the Central Valley would have no voice in state politics
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