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With a 16.9 February mean and a 8.2 July mean Hobart is a classic intermediate oceanic climate under my system and Köppen. Trewartha calls Hobart "maritime subtropical" which is absurd since there are no proper hot months nor a very mild winter.
16.9 is borderline cool and warm-summer climate for me. I prefer to draw that line at 17 C.
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Portland, OR annual mean = 54.4 F (12.4 C)
Eureka, CA annual mean= 52.9 F (11.6 C)
Case closed. The difference isn't much, but Portland is a warmer climate.
The winter makes all the difference, again, look at Dallas and Los Angeles, Dallas may have a warmer annual average, but the winter makes the difference. LA January avg 58.0° no frost freeze or snow; Dallas January average 47.1°, lots of frosts and freezes and gets at least a trace of snow every year.
You can't discount one time of year, especially the colder time of year!
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It only matters if you're obsessed with palm trees, which most people are not. Portland is a warmer climate.
A place that can grow palms is in an inherintly ?sp? warmer climate than a place that can't.
By your logic, where I live is warmer than Tampa, despite the fact that Tampa has a normal Jan temp around 60.6°, where we have a normal January temp around 56°
The winter makes all the difference, again, look at Dallas and Los Angeles, Dallas may have a warmer annual average, but the winter makes the difference. LA January avg 58.0° no frost freeze or snow; Dallas January average 47.1°, lots of frosts and freezes and gets at least a trace of snow every year.
You can't discount one time of year, especially the colder time of year!
Um, you also can't discount the other 3/4ths of the year. No is "discounting" winter when you're taking the annual mean.
You palm tree types think winter is the only time of the year that exists.
A place that can grow palms is in an inherintly ?sp? warmer climate than a place that can't.
By your logic, where I live is warmer than Tampa, despite the fact that Tampa has a normal Jan temp around 60.6°, where we have a normal January temp around 56°
Again, you are completely ignoring the other eleven months. I would certainly say you have a warmer climate than Tampa, consider your summers are like 15 F warmer than Tampa's and your winters aren't that much colder.
Are you thick or something? Annual mean is literally the measure of how cold/warm a climate is. By your logic, Nashville is a colder climate than London since it's colder in January.
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